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the 602 is an amazing engine. Mine's got 421k and the bottom end's never been touched.
it's on it's second headgasket (actually, it's dead in my driveway) If I pull this head and see something horrendous in the bottom end, I'm looking to do a 606 Turbo with a 5-speed. (yes it CAN be done) The 5-speed trans can be ordered directly from MB for $2k. - and will last forever if takin care of....
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But, the nice thing about the 1990+ models are all the other little conveniences... one-touch down windows, optional passenger airbag, the cosmetic upgrades (wide lower body moulding, chrome door handle inserts, etc), wood trim on the dash & doors, optional ASD, etc etc. Handling on both will be nearly identical, assuming all wear items are replaced (bushings, etc). The weight is about the same... the 602 has a lighter powertrain, but the cosmetic stuff added some of that weight back. Chassis, engine, & performance specs are all in this Excel spreadsheet, if you want to compare further. |
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It would be far easier to put a 606 turbo in there with a good ol' 722.3 tranny. You'll need a mechanical pump, but you can get a ton of power from that 606 if you want... same with the 603, of course. I'm working on tweaking my 603 at the moment. |
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Dr. Frankenstein himself said it was possible. Bigger Turbo, modified IP (giles, in canada should do fuel re-mapping and installing bigger plungers) maybe even Nitrous; Sportline kit coming soon. you said ASD was an option on these cars? where would one check?
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If it has it there is a light in the dash.
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I think the 12,000 is about correct, but the actual 90 model was probably more like a hundred or less cars as they showed up late in MY and then came the '91 models. Not sure of what the differences were in the model years. These are very popular among some of the Veggie heads due to the large window washer fluid tank for use as a warmer for the vegie oil, or so I was told by a guy who wanted to buy our '91 car. The only PIA with the '91 IMHO is that it was built for a max MPG being at about 55 to 60 mph (1800 rpm range) on the highway, when crusing 75 mph as done here in MO it is pulling 3000/3100 rpm, compared to about 2100/2200 for my 05 CDI and that is a big difference for fuel ecomony let me tell you.
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On topic, now... the only thing I know about the 602 turbo in a 124 (300d) is that some neighbors of ours have one, and if anybody is hard on cars it's them. Theirs is still ticking right along. So is their 99 e300d. Must be fairly reliable. |
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2) About your plans for a turbo upgrade and modofied IP... is this on your 602, or the 606? And are the bigger p/b elements (plungers) 6mm or 7mm? 3) ASD is a pretty rare option, especially in warmer climates. It will appear as option code 211 in the datacard, or if you're looking at the instrument cluster, there will be a square yellow triangle light in the middle of the speedometer (above the odometer), as well as an ASD light near the glow light. But, it's better to check the datacard, and/or look for the hydrualic plumbing under the hood, in case someone happened to swap instrument clusters (I saw a car like this on eBay once... cluster indicated ASD, photo under the hood - and decoding the VIN - said otherwise.) In the USA, ASD was only an option on the 124.128 (2.5T), not the 124.133 (1987 300D). You can convert to limited-slip on any 124 though, it's not exactly cheap, but possible. There's a few threads on that, use the search function to look them up... |
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5-Speed Manual. I don't know which rear end ratio yet.
The IP will be modded to keep up with fuel demand. "Giles" over in Canada is a legend for re-mapping the VW pumps, I hope he does Bosch M/MW pumps 606 - full sheet metal intake. Side dump exhaust (not resonator/muffler) Only thing to figure out is what to do with those pesky flex disks, so I don't shear them....
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