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Why put in a diesel engine.
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People here are always crowing about how many miles a gallon their diesels get, correct? My point was, and is, simply this. The TRUE cost of running a car is in dollars per mile, (not only fuel mileage), which takes into account also such things like cost and frequency of repairs, insurance, garage costs, depreciation and other factors. FUEL MILEAGE IS BUT ONE MORE FACTOR, in determining total cost per mile to run a car. I submit to you that fuel economy is indeed, and ALWAYS has been, one of the BIG reasons, people like to run diesel engines in passenger automobiles. (It is ABSOLUTELY true in Europe where strastospheric gas prices practically FORCE people to buy diesel engined cars, plus some countries tax cars over there based on engine displacement. "Unique and cool" factor you're kiddng me, where over 60% of the cars are diesels???!!! Shome mishtake shurely...
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If I were to perform such a swap, it would have to be with a modified 603. Screw the 606. It is indeed superior with the 4-valve design, but unless you are willing to spend mega-$$$, and are looking for an involved project with an end result of having little room to work on anything, its not worth the hassle. The 603/606 get more than twice the mileage of the 560. . Modify that thing to at least the power level of a Euro high compression 560, and you'll do alright. That said...I love the M117. It is very easy to work with when you know what you're doing. Its just some of the black boxes are ludicrously priced. Power is nice, except when using that power I can practically see the fuel gauge needle moving towards R at WOT.
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There are a few SD's on our local craiglist. Also check Kijiji.ca. Parts car a must. I've done several VW jetta gas to diesel swaps, and the things that you will most likely have to contend with is the tank, removal of fuel pumps, wiring up glow plug relay, exhaust, and since your dealing with a gasser - and a rear wheel drive to boot - the rear differential..Lots of work. I would say look for an SD, and use the 560 for parts....
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Why bother they made the 300/350SDL's? Its a factory swap so not a hack job.
You will need to have the two cars side by side to do the swap, they changed a lot. For starters the 560 has SLS suspesion that you will need to convert over.
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What are you going to do with the spare 560 drive train?
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500SEC diesel on e-bay right now http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-500-Series-W126-COUPE-DIESEL-MERCEDES-BENZ-500-SEC-TURBODIESEL-CONVERSION_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ6332QQihZ011QQitemZ320213965726QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
I've still got my 500SEC for sale here:Mercedes clearance sale: if anyone wants to try a conversion
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MAN there is so much wrong information in this thread its unbelievable.
as someone who has done 3 diesel into W126 Gas bodies, It is not a challenging step, Almost everything bolts up, i am going to post a new thread with the entire conversion process.
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Icefire
More power to you. I backed off the project as I have one too many on my hands already. I gotta replace the steel brake and fuel lines on my SD and replace a diff oil seal. And my wife has her eye on a 380SL so I have a whole new drivetrain to learn..... |
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Icefire, I am looking for Your post but can't find it. I also want to convert my 380SEC to SDC using 617 engine from 300SD Can You PM me or give some usefull info, especially when it comes to transmission and rear end. Did You keep 2.47 ratio os SEC? |
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And here's a 560SEC with OM603 (bigger turbo and IC) under the hood:
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Drool!
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Thats my idea of a conversion! Has the IP been done?
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That color! Is that Barney the Dinosaur's personal ride?
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