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anyone use a top sider on a 606?
I am thinking of getting one of these to suck the oil out with but I havent used one on this type of car before. Anyone have any luck with them? I can see putting the hose down the filler neck in alot of cars, but since you fill the 606 directly into the motor, not sure how well it would work.
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The withdraw hose goes down the dipstick tube.
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I have used a TopSider a few times with my 606. The only problem is the tool losing its vacuum before the job is done. If I were shopping again, I'd get a different model. Probably something powered by electricity or compressed air.
However, the TopSider gets more oil out of the engine than the drain plug in the pan. Here's a hint: when filling your engine, pour the oil into the filter housing and install the filter last. Not only do you get a huge opening for the oil, you don't get any extra oil on the valve stems. You're supposed to wait for 15 minutes before starting the engine if you get oil on the rear of the head (under the valve cover). See your owner's manual. |
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Can you please elaborate?
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I wish I had an owners manual. But I appreciate the help guys. I hadnt thought of putting it down the dipstick tube, guess that would make the most sense.
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The topsider method actually sucks out about a cup more of oil more than draining through the pan does. Maybe it has something to do with MB designing their engines since the mid 70s to accomodate such devices for oil changes (get more oil out using their preferred way?). I suppose if you wanted that same effect, you could remove the oil pan at every oil change and pour that oil out. In the long run, that small cup that's leftover really doesn't matter, seeing as the new oil will be mixed with up to over a quart of old oil that can't be removed from the engine.
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They work well, I have used them for years on boats and on my friends S320. On a lot of marine engines you simply cannot get to the drain plug, and on the S320 its more trouble than its worth with all the belly pans.
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I'm sure that it applies further. How far, I have no idea.
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Topsider
Works great. Haven't tried adding oil through the filter housing, haven't had problems adding oil through the valve cover, but I'm not in a hurry, can wait for it to drain down.
Jeremy
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I've seen them in use at Mercedes dealerships, so I guess they work pretty well. Certainly seems a lot easier and cleaner than crawling around underneath a car and having dirty oil run down you arm.
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That's why you install a Fumoto drain valve
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ok well dont get the one from harbour freight. At least not the pump one, maybe an electric one. The one I got wouldnt create enough pull to get the oil out. After about an hour, and LOTS of pumping, i may have gotten a quart out.
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Get the one by Mitivac, the same company that makes the excelent vacume pump that every MB mechanic should have. Mine can also pump the oil out of it into a waste container. Very handy. I actually use it now for all my non MB oil changes. Very easy to use and it does not loose its vacume like the topsider. Just search for it on google or e-bay.
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603 drains every last drop out of the pan bottom except for the oil that is trapped in the lines to and from, and within, the oil cooler. No way to get that out except risk your fittings to unscrew them.
Arguing over a tablespoon of oil left in the pan is irrelevant in light of the cup or more that's in that oil cooling system. That said, it comes down to a question of practical convenience only, in my opinion. |
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