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NC Benz · #46 02-14-2008, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan G

I can't offer much specific advice on the sound/potential flex disc issue.....but don't feel stupid, the forum is with you (much like the force!). You'll make it home, your daughter will be fine and you'll remember this maiden voyage forever

. I still think it's cool what you're doing.

As others have mentioned, the leaking return lines aren't a big deal - but as I might have suggested before - if a home depot or lowes are nearby - pick up some weedwhacker fuel line and replace. It's an easy fix if you have the time and you'll save some fuel and keep things clean/dry in there.

Careful with the weedwhacker fuel line. I bought some stuff that when it got warm turned very soft and slid off from the injector real easily. That fuel does get warm.

Jordan G · #47 02-14-2008, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by NC Benz

Careful with the weedwhacker fuel line. I bought some stuff that when it got warm turned very soft and slid off from the injector real easily. That fuel does get warm.

Really? I wonder if the home depot/lowes brands make a difference. I've had about 1000 miles on mine without issue.

Like everything, I suppose results may vary. I suggested it as more of a quick, on the road fix (versus ordering lines from the dealer or online) but point well taken.

rs899 · #48 02-14-2008, 07:53 AM

Ginny-

Don't worry (too much) we'll help you figure this out. I think it is unlikely, but when you get under there take a peek at the front surface of the bellhousing, just behind the engine oil pan. There should be a big plastic plug about the size of your fist there that keeps garbage out of the bellhousing. If by some chance that is missing, you could get something in there making a noise. Or something could be loose in there ( you should look in there and spin the engine ). There should be something you can see with the car on a lift.

We're pullin' for you- you look to be more than halfway home

Rick

Dee8go · #49 02-14-2008, 08:53 AM

Ginny, you're not "the man." You're "Da WO-man!" My hat's off to you. You're a gutsy gal. Thanks for posting the events of your trip here.

imagesinthewind · #50 02-14-2008, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnt49

Hey guys, as you heard, Ginny called me earlier this evening with basically the same info she has posted here. It seems like the sound is coming from the bellhousing area from what I can gather. Flex disk, debris on driveshaft, etc. would not make a noise when car is stationary, although it should be looked at. I'm guessing something is amis in the bell housing, or at the front pump, (loose torque converter bolts, or possibly debris in the bell housing). She said the starter sounded normal, so I doubt it's a loose starter dragging on the ring gear, although she did say the starter drive didn't engage on the first try when cold, she could hear it grinding on the ring gear. If anyone knows of a good Indy in the area now would be a good time to chime in.

Yes, sorry, it can be heard, though not loudly, when stationary in park and N. It's only a constant sssshhhhhhhhhhhhh sound and light because of the engine noise. No insulation on the hood so the engine noise is pretty loud.
When the car is moving the noise is quite easy to hear and we originally heard it over a good song that we turned up to jam to.
It sounds to be coming from the middle of the engine, behind the climate controls but under them not right behind. More like near our feet.

I'll be side curbing the car this morning and skootching under to see what I can see under the think oil blanket. Yuck.

I'm staying at the Drury Inn KC Staduim on Blue Ridge Cutoff.

I had a dream it was a plastic bag. . .

I'm off to eat and then start car work.
Hopefully I get home tomorrow. New pizza coupon came out Tuesday which means Friday pizza is going to be slammed. No one else can do slammed but me. I don't panic over food. Car breaking down 8 hours from home, yes. Food, no.

Thanks guys. What the heck would I do without you?

vollpreuss · #51 02-14-2008, 10:16 AM

I’m wondering if there is a small exhaust leak. I’ve had hissing sounds on gassers with marginal exhaust systems. I’ve never experienced one on my Mercedes so I don’t know if it is comparable. Good luck on your adventure. I purchased my wagon in a similar manner. Fly out – drive 600 miles home in an unknown vehicle. Makes for some excitement.

Johnt49 · #52 02-14-2008, 10:17 AM

Ginny, Just a few more thoughts. If you power brake the car (trans in drive, foot on brake, and slowly floor it) does the noise get louder? Also, have your daughter rev the engine up while in park while you check the exhaust flow out the rear...could be a restricted exhaust if you're not getting a strong flow out of the mufler when engine revs.

imagesinthewind · #53 02-14-2008, 11:05 AM

more info.
nothing looks amiss under the car. yuck though.

after driving it around the block and hearing the sound again, it's more up that at the feet. I had angel rev really high and I think it's coming from the round canister on the drivers side near the firewall.
I'm getting pics to load.
Don't know what that is.

Also on the passengers side I found a line with a round connection but it's not connected to anything. pics of that coming too.

imagesinthewind · #54 02-14-2008, 11:10 AM

go here:
http://imagesinthewind.homestead.com/badsounds.html

pics of the cansiter and bolt

JimmyL · #55 02-14-2008, 11:12 AM

Sounds like you're describing brake booster. You've also mentioned having bad brakes. I assumed you meant grinding or similar, but if you have no help from the brake booster maybe you meant you have to smash down on the pedal real hard?

**edit**
Well, based on your post above, that is your oil filter housing. Also explains why you are having an oil mess all under the car.

If oil was changed prior to your pickup, maybe the sealing o-ring is not put on correctly causing your massive leak. I don't know why there would be a noise.
You need to remove cover and check the sealing o-ring. The bolts on top are 13mm.
Check that oil level!!

I think your noise is the open manifold connection to the banjo bolt for the alda, which is the line you are holding up.

imagesinthewind · #56 02-14-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmyL

Sounds like you're describing brake booster. You've also mentioned having bad brakes. I assumed you meant grinding or similar, but if you have no help from the brake booster maybe you meant you have to smash down on the pedal real hard?

real hard but I don't smash. I just watch traffic well and then I press gradually hard until I stop.
But they aren't good at all the brakes. Would lock up easy if I had to stop fast.
they don't grind per say but they feel like they would, kwim?

imagesinthewind · #57 02-14-2008, 11:17 AM

would the brake booster make a rythmic beat with the speed of the car?

kerry · #58 02-14-2008, 11:20 AM

BINGO. That's the banjo bolt that reads the intake manifold pressure and controls the ALDA. I think it's possible you're hearing the intake manifold pressure leak out of the hole where that banjo bolt should be installed on the back of the intake manifold.
It's not a big worry but it does mean that for all intents and purposes the turbo is not providing much boost.

That explanation doesn't account for the rhythmic sound though.

imagesinthewind · #59 02-14-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmyL

Sounds like you're describing brake booster. You've also mentioned having bad brakes. I assumed you meant grinding or similar, but if you have no help from the brake booster maybe you meant you have to smash down on the pedal real hard?

**edit**
Well, based on your post above, that is your oil filter housing. Also explains why you are having an oil mess all under the car.

If oil was changed prior to your pickup, maybe the sealing o-ring is not put on correctly causing your massive leak. I don't know why there would be a noise.
You need to remove cover and check the sealing o-ring. The bolts on top are 13mm.
Check that oil level!!

I think your noise is the open manifold connection to the banjo bolt for the alda, which is the line you are holding up.

Checked the level this morning and none to be found. Added a whole gallon!!
He 'didn't get a chance' to have the oil changed. He just topped it up.

I have no tools but maybe they have some here at the hotel.
What am I looking for.
And is the banjo bolt something I need to take care of now or when I get home?