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SirNik84 02-12-2008 05:27 PM

Toyota Diesel
 
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so I have this Toyota Tercel... the people who know me know i have this hidden love for this little 4x4 go cart of a car... well in my boredom i read about the Corolla that uses the same engine family as my tercel came with the 1C Toyota Diesel engine. now if i could get a diesel in my Toyota... that would be a dream come true.

SO.... since i know most of you are like me and enjoy looking at diesel engines, no matter who makes them, if anyone sees a Corolla Diesel.... let me know. I would love to just see a picture of this engine.

that said. I saw an awesome Toyota Diesel this weekend. a BJ-40 Diesel custom crew cab from South Africa. it was used for diamond mining. some how it made it to California. Here are some pics.

Stevo 02-12-2008 05:52 PM

There are so many cool diesel "utility"vehicles in use everywhere but here in the USA, such a shame we can't get our hands on some.:mad::mad::mad:

SirNik84 02-12-2008 05:58 PM

the BJ-40 is at my best friend brothers shop. the shop is a 4x4 Truck and Rack Crawling Custom shop. He has this one client that loves odd trucks and he does restorations for him. he has a Toyota Hilux Diesel, and a 300GD and that Land Cruiser, and an electric car from the 70s, and a bunch of other cars and trucks. pretty cool client. The green car behind the Toyota is the electric car.

kerry 02-12-2008 06:03 PM

I was going to ask about the electric car. I knew a guy who used one of those for commuting in Denver for quite a few years.

notfarnow 02-12-2008 08:30 PM

I used to have one of those toyota tercel 4x4's... what a great car. How many other station wagons have a low range?!?

I remember schlepping around a tercel 4x4 forum to see if you could swap in a toyota diesel engine... I seem to remember reading that none of the corrola diesel engines had the same transmission bolt pattern.

zu! 02-12-2008 09:13 PM

Toyota Crown
 
Back in Singapore, virtually every single taxi was a Toyota Crown diesel. I had a buddy who drove one as a 2nd job, and grew to love his taxi more than his regular car!

The crown was basically this very large comfortable vehicle with a back seat like a sofa and a boot that could accommodate 4 full-size golf bags easily. It had great pickup, amazing fuel economy, and was really easy to maintain. Because of the high-cost of taxi-ownership, the companies that rent them out, rent them at a really high price, so the taxis basically have to 'work' 24/7 with drivers switching places every 10 to 12 hours. After 6 years, the taxis are 'retired'. I never did found out where they went :rolleyes:

myssrhl 02-12-2008 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SirNik84 (Post 1761687)
the BJ-40 is at my best friend brothers shop. the shop is a 4x4 Truck and Rack Crawling Custom shop. He has this one client that loves odd trucks and he does restorations for him. he has a Toyota Hilux Diesel, and a 300GD and that Land Cruiser, and an electric car from the 70s, and a bunch of other cars and trucks. pretty cool client. The green car behind the Toyota is the electric car.


Oh heck I had one of those elec. "Sebring" cars.
I called it "silent death"

Used to get stoned and drive that thang, different life, laugh our butts off.

Confession.

charmalu 02-12-2008 11:56 PM

On e-bay I have seen those Toyota Diesels come time to time. there are a
few sellers that sell engines from Japan, and Toyota, Nissan, Mitsubishi,
etc... Diesels are listed.

Charlie

turbobenz 02-13-2008 12:29 AM

Ive never seen an old corrolla diesel

heres one http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lh3.google.com/_oiph9oWNqXQ/RqQCoyD8gpI/AAAAAAAABsQ/5z6eH7zJ-oI/s800/CIMG1809.JPG&imgrefurl=http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/4xYgmgOuOsR13i0FZjC3iw&h=600&w=800&sz=116&hl=en&start=4&um=1&tbnid=o9cGPfqUdSMrTM:&tbnh=107&tbnw=143 &prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcorolla%2Bdiesel%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DRqU%26sa%3DN

Mustang_man298 02-13-2008 12:30 AM

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Interesting body mod on that Cruiser, what year is it? It looks a lot like my '75 FJ-40.

I thought our good ol' enviro friendly state here made it lillegal to convert between diesel and gasoline fuels yrs ago.....not saying a lot of people follow that rule,lol. But it is easier to do it from diesel to gas as far as getting around the smog checks.

sixto 02-13-2008 01:29 AM

Every so often you see a Camry turbodiesel on eBay. I believe the 1C-T is the same basic engine as the 1C in the Corolla only with a turbo.

Call the folks at Japan Parts USA in SSF. They are or were one of the bigger surplus engine importers. Their yard had the biggest selection of non-US engines I saw when I was used engine shopping.

Here's one - http://prestigemtrs.com/inventory/index.html?action=details&id=QZQgHi9oPdLpm4tMbFshFA

Sixto
87 300D

sixto 02-13-2008 01:37 AM

Road trip!

http://ventura.craigslist.org/car/567950674.html

Sixto
87 300D

GREASY_BEAST 02-13-2008 02:57 AM

My dad had a FJ-40 diesel when I was growing up. I think the car was an '83 or so... don't remember exactly. Must have been a gray-market thing because they weren't sold in the US. WHAT A RIG!!! wow i wish he never sold it. That thing could go many places a Jeep of any variety couldn't even think about. 5 speed tranny made it downright sporty and fun to drive too. I have a non-turbo 617 just itching to go into something like that, so if anyone knows of a decent one without an engine in the $500 range, let me know LOL.

pleiades 02-13-2008 08:09 AM

Does your car have the 22-R (or RE) right now? That engine was used on Celicas, pickups, and 4Runners as well.

What I would give for a diesel 3rd generation Celica...

SirNik84 02-13-2008 11:16 AM

my car has the 1.5L 3A its not a bad engine for the car. but I've always wanted it to be a diesel. I HATE the carburetor on that thing. has about 25 vacuum lines. and people say the Mercedes vacuum system is complicated. if one of those lines goes bad or falls off and the car starts running like crap. I have a Hitachi carburetor off of a 72 Datsun 510 (no vacuum lines) that I'm going to install on it (when I'm not being smog tested) but even with that, its still not as cool as a diesel.

as far as that engine bolting up to the transmission... there is nothing that can't be modified.. if necessary. i thought about putting a 240D's engine in it, but the Toyota is just to small to accommodate it.

"3rd generation Celica"
I always wanted the 1st generation. they look like someone took a muscle car and made it 3/4 scale. but i do love those R series engines. i built a 22R with a 20R head. that thing was like a rocket. then i had a 22R-TE. thats the first Turbo i ever rebuilt, and good old Toyota built those things so crappy. it had a huge crack in the exhaust housing. still it was fun learning about turbos. sadly all those engines were for friends. the R series is also to large for the tercel.

my friend wants to build an adapter plate to install the 617 into his Toyota truck. the same adapter plate could be used to install a 617 into a Celica... I've been thinking about that...

notfarnow 02-13-2008 11:30 AM

I went digging through forums and found the post about engine/transmission issues:

http://www.toyotadiesel.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1972

You may want to email jcm55 to see what he learned

I would LOVE something like this:
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/2...sc001287za.jpg
If my sammie ever gets "rooned", I woudl be very interested in a Tercel 4wd diesel swap!

SirNik84 02-13-2008 12:35 PM

here are some pics of my tercel... i bought this one for $80. the guy said the engine was bad, so i swapped the engine. got her going in a weekend. this is the 3rd one I've owned, first one i totaled, the second got stolen.

these pics are from when i took her to do a radio survey for work, and a huge storm hit. you guys in California remember the storm, the huge one that his the first week of January.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4080851-01.jpg

She is steaming because i drover her through a 3ft deep flooded spot. water was over the hood. don't know how she didn't suck water.

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4080851-00.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...3081047-00.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...4080851-02.jpg

i wanna put a sticker on the back that says "you got your A$$ passed by 80 bucks" :D

GREASY_BEAST 02-13-2008 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SirNik84 (Post 1762411)
my friend wants to build an adapter plate to install the 617 into his Toyota truck. the same adapter plate could be used to install a 617 into a Celica... I've been thinking about that...

Please keep posting about this as more info comes in! A 617 powered 4runner would be COOL!

SirNik84 02-13-2008 02:20 PM

We just got a plasma cutter. now all we need is time. we have the stock adapter plate for the 617. and we have a Toyota bell housing. its only a matter of having the time now. chances are we will start this project for real come summer.

GREASY_BEAST 02-13-2008 03:24 PM

what material are you making the adapter out of? 1/4" or 3/8" steel plate or something? My biggest worry in making an adapter would be that some bolts would not be usable due to interference from either the bell housing or the engine. Is this a potential problem? Also, how do you go about making sure everything lines up correctly? What do you use for reference? How will you deal with the clutch/flywheel/tranny interface? Please forgive my ignorance on the matter as I have never made an adapter or done an engine swap before...

SirNik84 02-13-2008 04:12 PM

Mercedes did half the work already. the Mercedes engine doesn't bell out to meet the transmission. the back of the engine is square, and an adapter bolts to that from the factory. we will just have to recreate the transmission adapter to bolt up to the Toyota transmission. using the crank shaft and input shaft as the centering point.

the Mercedes clutch disc is the same size as the Toyota clutch. so we are going use a Toyota clutch disc and Mercedes flywheel and pressure plate.

the existing Mercedes adapter plate is aluminum. but the first adapter plate will be made of steel because it is cheaper and easier for us to work with. (we are building it in the garage) once we get it down we are going to work with my friends brother, the owner of the shop talked about in the first post, about getting to use some tools to make it out of aluminum.

turbobenz 02-13-2008 04:41 PM

hey whats that orange cord running on the side of the wagon for?

sixto 02-13-2008 04:47 PM

That's for driver supplied auxiliary vacuum for when the Aisin carb loses a vacuum hose :)

Sixto
87 300D

sixto 02-13-2008 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SirNik84 (Post 1762411)
I always wanted the 1st generation. they look like someone took a muscle car and made it 3/4 scale. but i do love those R series engines. i built a 22R with a 20R head. that thing was like a rocket. then i had a 22R-TE. thats the first Turbo i ever rebuilt, and good old Toyota built those things so crappy. it had a huge crack in the exhaust housing.

Clearly the king of the Rs is the 18RG.

Sixto
87 300D

SirNik84 02-13-2008 10:11 PM

i was running a laptop and radio equipment off an inverter i zip tied under the hood.... it died when i went through the water. luckily that was the last day of the survey.

GREASY_BEAST 02-13-2008 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SirNik84 (Post 1762685)
Mercedes did half the work already. the Mercedes engine doesn't bell out to meet the transmission. the back of the engine is square, and an adapter bolts to that from the factory. we will just have to recreate the transmission adapter to bolt up to the Toyota transmission. using the crank shaft and input shaft as the centering point.

the Mercedes clutch disc is the same size as the Toyota clutch. so we are going use a Toyota clutch disc and Mercedes flywheel and pressure plate.

the existing Mercedes adapter plate is aluminum. but the first adapter plate will be made of steel because it is cheaper and easier for us to work with. (we are building it in the garage) once we get it down we are going to work with my friends brother, the owner of the shop talked about in the first post, about getting to use some tools to make it out of aluminum.

That is excellent news!! OK, the swap possibilities for my NA617 just got huge, and easy! thanks!

DeliveryValve 02-21-2008 12:44 AM

4 runner diesel conversion
 
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Diesel-Biodiesel-Toyota-4Runner-62K-Miles-4X4-Turbo_W0QQitemZ270212201730QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item270212201730

"The engine is a Toyota Turbo Diesel 1KZ 3.0 Liter Engine. It only has 62K miles on it, practically brand new for a diesel, and should last 200K to 300K miles. The engine was imported from Japan in a half-cut."

sixto 02-22-2008 08:50 PM

SirNik, here's a swap donor -

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230225449510

Sixto
87 300D

thesst 02-22-2008 09:01 PM

about a year ago someone had an old Toyota Tercel diesel for sale here in reno.... wish I'd bought it, it was only $900 and in decent condition


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