Great sig, RT!

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" We have nothing to fear but the main stream media itself . . . ."- Adapted from Franklin D Roosevelt for the 21st century

OBK #55

1998 Lincoln Continental - Sold
Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
The Dee8gonator 1987 560SEC 196,000 miles - Sold
Orgasmatron - 2006 CLS500 90,000 miles
2002 C320 Wagon 122,000 miles
2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

i believe my 2000 bmw rt-p weighs in at around 620lbs,and the LT's are pushing close to 900

haha here they are!

http://microcarmuseum.com/tour/messerschmittkr201.html

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1984 300D Turbo - 231k....totalled 11/30/07 RIP

Fair enough. I'll go find that money I am made of. Thanx for the tip. You know there will be a 10% finders fee when I do find it.

Can you help me with my claim too? The last guy who caused me $14K of damage didn't have insurance and was definitely drunk. This should be a shoo in for you, right? Go take his and spend your life doing it. However, I should warn you of 2 problems:

1. He has nothing for you to take. This is his past, present and probably future.

2. OTOH, lets say he makes it big later on and is as rich as Bill Gates. Lets say for the sake of argument that you even manage to take him for all he is worth. How much money will it take to compensate you for the loss of your legs, arms, eyes, etc, etc? What is your price on your limbs or autonomy? IOW, what will it cost me to put you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life and you think you got a deal out of it?

My point is simple. If it costs me more in gas, I can work and earn it back. But if it costs me permanent damage, how will the money fix it for you even if you can get him to pay for it?

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01 Ford Excursion Powerstroke
99 E300 Turbodiesel
91 Vette with 383 motor
05 Polaris Sportsman 800 EFI
06 Polaris Sportsman 500 EFI
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Red
03 SeaDoo GTX SC Yellow
04 Tailgator 21 ft Toy Hauler
11 Harley Davidson 883 SuperLow

What if it costs you more in gas and also causes permanent damage? You act like driving a bigger vehicle is a guarantee of safety. If you get hit by a semi-truck it will probably make no difference if you're in your Excursion or a Civic. Also let's not overlook the fact that many people get killed in SUV and truck rollovers. The safest vehicles are usually large sedans, not trucks or SUV's.

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2004 VW Jetta TDI (manual)

Past MB's: '96 E300D, '83 240D, '82 300D, '87 300D, '87 420SEL

If you have cellophoneitis or textmesaagealaria, you shoukld be driving a Ford Pinto with a full tank of gas! As far as Semi's go, we are much higher educated professional drivers and for every 100 crashes with a Semi, the car driver is at fault for 98.73 of them. Effective population control.

I will wait on the fuel economy since a Dnepner motorbike with a 3 cylinder 1000 cc Hatz Diesel gets about 94 MPG. Dnepner is a European Combination BMW boxer motorbike with a Hatz Diesel air cooled engine.

You sure that's not gvw?

I looked a new boxer up not too long ago because the rider thought it was a lot heavier than I thought it would be and I was right.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

And then there's this 376 mile-per-gallon beauty... from 1973. Yes, 1973.

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/351903_needle20.html

"That number doesn't come from some manta ray-shaped, wind tunnel-vetted carbon fiber space car. No, it's from a chop-top, steel-frame 1959 Opel T-1 (think melting jelly bean, but uglier). And the record was set in 1973 in a contest sponsored by Shell Oil Co."

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1984 300TD Wagon

That p model is the police bike, meant to compete with harleys. The sport version of it is 550 # that is for the 1200 cc dry weight. The 800 cc which is more like what I had is 404 dry weight.

That seems pretty light.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

Geez, you really do like to argue! Heres the deal: You think that a heavier vehicle or "superior" vehicle will make a significant difference in your being maimed or not if you are involved in an accident. Obviously you can afford to drive such a vehicle and have indicated that you don't care about the cost. Well, some people may have to make choices that are based on economics not what vehicle has the best possible crash protection. I maintain that it really isn't that significant statistically speaking. The chances of getting maimed in a modern vehicle are extremely low.

Regarding my dealing with some moron who does something really stupid and causes me to end up in the extremely low number of unfortunates that have serious life altering disability as a result. They had better be millionaires. If it doesn't result in at least a comfortable life with at least an acceptable quality of life for me I have no problem in saying this. If I am capable of it, I will kill them. If I can't then I will try to pay to have it done. At that point what do I have to loose?

I love my life and am not particularly risk averse. I believe in statistics and the fact is that no matter what I do there is a chance, however slight, that I will end up a vegetable. I am a vindictive bastard and I have no problem in taking some moron with me if he has ruined my life. Eye for an eye. I treat people as I expect to be treated and I drive within my skills and as carefully as I can. I expect others to do the same. RT

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When all else fails, vote from the rooftops!
84' Mercedes Benz 300D Anthracite/black, 171K
03' Volkswagen Jetta TDI blue/black, 93K
93' Chevrolet C2500HD ExCab 6.5TD, Two-tone blue, 252K

FWIW, my '83 R80ST is 368# dry/ 410# with fluids. The new ones are much too big IMHO.

Trying to attract the american buyer, I suppose.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

I guess, now it's sorta like driving a buick. I guess they need to include a lot of goodies for the price.

If everyone drove like they were strapped to the front of their vehicles, there would be no accidents.

A truer statement I've not heard anywhere else. It would not matter what you drove, only that you drove carefully.

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1987 300TD
1984 300D
755,000 KM and going strong
BC Canada

Two things immediately come to mind. The first is where do they start to work with the "jaws of life" when you get nailed. The other is an automobile from way back called the Bricklin SV-1. Made for two years during the 1970's, one of its notable features was its powered gull-wing doors. The doors were operated by convertible top cylinders, and in case you lost electricle umph, all you had to do was pull a hitch pin, and then push a 90 pound door outward and upward.

Hey, it might be easier to work under the dash on this one!

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1984 300D-T