Originally Posted by benz_diesel (Post 1781312)

OK, I backed up to assure the cam and the crank were still married to each other at TDC.

Well, ...so much for my confidence in that the chain hadn't slipped a few teeth when it slipped from my hands. And then again (looking at the great photo that Lux sent), I don't see how the chain could skip on the lower end if allowed to get slack. But, apparently it did... I had to back up the chain four teeth to get cam and crank synced. oookay...

So the chain is in, and the cam and crank are married at TDC. Now, ...I'm not so confident if the IP is still in sync.

Has anybody got any old cowboy tricks for setting the IP up? I did notice fuel at the #1 injector when passing through TDC, while checking for clear rotation once completing the chain. I only take that as being somewhere near the ball park. I haven't checked to see when fuel is introduced, so I need to do some reading.

I'm digging back into the m/m now to get a clue about the IP.

I'd like to thank everyone for their help and suggestions. The is a great forum!

Originally Posted by benz_diesel (Post 1781355)

Thanks Brian.

Question,

The "V" coming into view or centered at 15 degrees after top dead center, ...this is just an index reference in setting up the IP timing?? Correct?? When does fuel actually hit #1?

Originally Posted by benz_diesel (Post 1781382)

Thanks Brian.

The do the terminal ends on the test probe actually contact each side of the diverging -V- to give the test circuit continuity? Is that what the tool is physically doing?

I'm sure this should be done with the timing chain tensioner in, and all slop out. ...waiting for new crush washer for tensioner. I don't need to get ahead, just to back up again, ...chasing ghost.

Thanks

Originally Posted by benz_diesel (Post 1781312)

...(looking at the great photo that Lux sent)...

Originally Posted by Lux (Post 1781415)

Actually stole that from GSXR. Just passing it along.

Sounds like you got everything situated. If you need a IP locking tool, THIS TOOL IS WHAT YOU NEED. It will lock that tab BC talked about at 15deg.

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1781416)

I own that tool.

I never got it to work.

My guess is that the slot in the face of the tool is too narrow for the point of the V..........either that, or the slot is not perfectly aligned with the V.

Your choice, but it never engaged the V and locked the IP, despite 30-40 attempts.

Originally Posted by Lux (Post 1781421)

Crap. Well, I gotta give it a try as my IP is sitting on a bench awaiting re-assembly of my engine.

Will report on it in my engine rebuild post.

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1781426)

On a bench with just the IP........you might have some success if you can feel the slot engage. I'm down under the engine hoping the slot will engage the tool as I slowly creep up to 15° ATDC. It might even engage the slot but come right out the other side as I advance the crankshaft..........I'd never know.

Originally Posted by benz_diesel (Post 1783665)

Brian, Back to the IP Timing. At 14 degrees ATDC, I keep coming across a, "tooth" dead center of the plug hole. Is this the indication I'm looking for correct IP timing? I've rotated the crank the full 720 degrees, and this is the only unique feature I'm noticing. Could this be it...?!?!