I did not:D

For most of us that do this type of thing its not about the taxes, just like the guy making biodiesel in his backyard. We are willing to be legal, willing to pay taxes, but the legislation of it all makes it hard.

Want to pay your taxes on every car you flip? Ok sure, uh oh, get nailed because you do too many in one year!

Want to get a dealers license because you sold more than 3 cars in a year? Guess what you need to have a shop with business hours, all your bonds, etc etc.

It makes it exceedingly difficult for a small time operation or individual to be compliant - meaning fewer taxes are collected because fewer people can be compliant, meaning the noose becomes tighter. It's a vicious cycle.

Way to go Phil :D:D:D :beerchug:

Holy Crap!

Their 144k non-Turbo Coupe with a dash pad sold for 18.5k. That's nuts.


http://jgsmercedes.com/1980_300CD_China_Blue_Blue_Desc.html

They must be selling them to people on drugs who have a lot of cash, or just outright lieing. Who would pay $18k for a so so W123 coupe?:confused: Its not an R107, or C126.

That car is worth maybe $6k on a good day, and it went for three times that? Something ain't right.

Whoever painted that car needs to be introduced to the concept of wet sanding, and the buffing wheel. Wow talk about orange peal city! Also I can't help but think I'm seeing little specs of rust poking out from behind trim here and their. That tells me two things: One it is rust, or two thats a pretty cheap paint job. Digital pic's always make cars look nicer, I bet up close with a set of good polorized glasses it would fall apart. Maybe with a magnet to test for bondo as well...

Oooh, my 1980 300cd has 20k less miles and a pristine dash! It'll go for $22k at least. Can I have these hippies sell my car? :D

Those guys can certainly photograph their arse off!!!

The dash pad that they use actually looks good, I mean it is still noticeable if you know where to look, but on the whole not too bad.

Also do you think the trim was off during an extensive and meticulous polishing session?

Then again language such as "era correct pinstripe" leans me towards thinking he has access to original MB paint and knows his stuff inside and out.

Either way the amount of detailing work that they put into the engine bay alone is amazing.

A good detailing job can boost its "value" by a very large amount. Still, nobody in their right mind should have paid more than $8,000 for that. Its clearly a repaint using the same MB color and Hatterasguy said it right, talk about orange peal city!

Look at that rust peeking through.
http://www.sitedesigncentral.com/eba...-10%20(56).jpghttp://www.sitedesigncentral.com/eba...-10%20(70).jpg

It could be clean, but I would bring a magnet and look for bondo and glass.

Yeah, I wish the color match on mine was as close as that...

No kidding. The overall detail job they do on these cars is amazing - almost like it was a labor of love. They seem put as much effort into the detailing as they do into the photography.

Overpriced to be sure, but they do a nice job on presenting their product.

now if only there was a shop that charged a small fee (200 maybe as high as 400) for detailing jobs as thorough as theirs.

Another time capsule quality car. I need to talk to their detailers.

Brown can be beautiful.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320282963834&category=6330&adgroup_id=9631721602563203064&creative_id=13 898655128237261509&keyword=1984+mercedes+benz+300&vertical=%7B%7D&origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peachparts .com%2Fshopforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D230182&target=Gadget_KW#

Wait a tick. Oklahoma plates?

cough...ahem.. curb stoner...cough

If you look at the lighting of the pictures of the exterior they seem to be taken on an overcast day, except for the first couple, and the interior shots.

These guys rub me the wrong way, I wouldn't buy a car from them unless you could really look it over.

I think I figured out that their definition of "original paint" equals "original color paint". Every one of the cars that I have viewed has had a new paint job. You can tell by looking closely at the pictures. Even cars covered in a garage 99% of time will deteriorate some in 25 years.

So, did anyone else notice that EVERY car has the exact same pin striping pattern?

These guys have the nicest MB diesels you will ever find. I'm pretty sure they pretty much take everything apart and refinish/replace every little bit. So the "perfect" exterior really is perfect. They remove all the trim and polish and shine.

Whether or not the paint is original, I cannot say, but I think a lot of it may not look quite as nice in some photos simply due to the camera settings. A large aperture is going to blur things. I've only spoken to someone who has seen one of their cars (http://jgsmercedes.com/1980_300D_China_Blue.html) and apparently it was even nicer in person than in the photos. Regardless, the paint quality is stunning.

Either way, I'm sure these cars are nicer than any of ours, except for maybe only a handful, but still those have more flaws each than all of theirs combined.

Its their calling card. If I bought one, I'd remove it immediately after purchasing.

Maybe they use the pinstripe as an identifier so they don't, sometime in the future, accidentally re-buy one of their lemons...

How did you determine that they are selling lemons exactly? :confused:


I just viewed the auction for the Brown 300D. Just stunning!! They clean and polish in places that I haven't ever even seen on my cars before. That driver's floor pedal-view pic is awesome!
They are way out of my market, but it would be cool to start with a car that clean! That is tremendous value. Not a single MB I've ever owned is even capable of being cleaned up that well.
And photography savvy to boot.......

He's just jealous.;)

It's the green coolant and zip-tied A/C manifold insulation. :rolleyes:

OOOOOO burn :)

Haha I knew if I didn't put a smiley face after that last comment that someone would get their panties in a wad. Let's try it: :)

Obviously I don't KNOW that their cars are lemons. Something just smells fishy about their whole operation. That's all.

Well, they're probably curb stoners and avoiding paying any kind of tax altogether. That's one way to tick the average taxpaying citizen off.

Another gripe is their cleaning and reconditioning can almost seem overboard. That beige W115 is a prime example of how touch up paint can make things seem even more shady. See the big chunks missing?
http://www.sitedesigncentral.com/eba...20%2860%29.jpg

And, of course, we're all wondering who they actually get to pay their astronomical prices. They have absolutely NO testimonials on their site to confirm that was the actual selling price. Seriously, who in their right mind would pay THAT much?

http://jgsmercedes.com/For_Sale.html

Doubting the power of plastic zip ties? i would be happy if the stupid ac just worked, i dont care if it looks like a third grader went with a crayon allover the ac lines as long as it worked i wouldnt care.

You mean like my wagon? :o

I also see some side trim missing!


Looks like they are all sold out!

What do you guys expect from a bunch of hippies? Yea get stoned and really get into cleaning a small spot. OH WAIT I GREW UP IN THE HAIT ASHBERRY IN THE 60s SO FORGET EVERYTHING I JUST SAID. Just because they have long hair doesn't mean they doen't like these cars as much as the rest of us.

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Are you Phil...or are you the devil?

:eek::eek::eek::D

Failed to make reserve at 11k. Based on the bidders' histories I strongly suspect some shill bidding was going on.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320282963834&category=6330&adgroup_id=9631721602563203064&creative_id=13 898655128237261509&keyword=1984+mercedes+benz+300&vertical=%7B%7D&origin=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.peachparts .com%2Fshopforum%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D230182&target=Gadget_KW#

I don't know or care enough to find out what, but my gut doesn't like these guys. My gut usualy isn't wrong.

If I was closer I would love to drive out their and actualy look at one of the cars. As I have said here many times I have yet to find an old MB for sale that I couldn't find $2k worth of stuff it needed.:D

I don't know why some of you guys are so skeptical about these guys and their operation, in my opinion they just seem to be obsessed with Mercedes Benz and love what they do. They found their calling and are very good at what they do. Their crime seems to be rescuing & reviving a dying out genre of cars and their cars look better than anything we own...... :o
AND Of course nobody here is obsessed with their Mercedes:rolleyes:

This is their statement.
""In the Fall of 2003, I purchased my first Mercedes Benz for $700, and JG’s Mercedes was born. It was a 1979 300SD dressed in faded maple yellow and sunburned bamboo. Bringing that car back to life taught me a lot about Mercedes-Benz, but more importantly, I had finally found something I loved to do. My mother still taunts me about my nine years of college to become a used car salesman, or as I’d like to call it, a doing-what-I-was-meant-to-do-man. I grew up living next door to a Mercedes-Benz mechanic in Las Vegas, who was always going on-and-on about the immortality of the Mercedes-Benz diesel, so, given my knack for entrepreneurship, and my unconventional ways of making a living, I wholeheartedly accepted the rare opportunity to follow my heart and pay my rent too.


Over time my new business grew, and several hundred cars later I joined forces with two of my closest friends, Kenny Anderson and Aaron Feeley. Kenny’s gift is skateboarding and he spends most of his time traveling around the world doing just that. He is now giving something back to our community through promoting the alternative fuels that compliment classic MB diesel cars. A documentary film and skateboarding tours in his 1979 300SD based around this idea are in the making. Aaron Feeley is one of the most intriguing characters to ever come into my life. His natural talent for mechanics and building has made him an invaluable addition, and his sense of humor and constantly evolving mustache make for good times as well. I would say the one thing the three of us connect on most, outside of our 20 plus year friendship, is our uncanny attention to detail. We put our hearts into everything we do, and that has undeniably given JG’s Mercedes a great advantage in our field.


Why we love Mercedes-Benz, specifically, Mercedes-Benz diesels produced between 1975 and 1985, is simple; in our opinion, they were the best mass-production cars ever made, and in today’s market they are an even greater value. The positive environmental advantages of reusing safe, reliable, fuel efficient cars instead of building new ones, along with their unique alternative fuel options make Mercedes-Benz diesels an extremely great buy. Their notorious longevity is validated by their common place on today’s roads, and further, these cars have appreciated in value over the past several years, which is good news for both buyers and sellers. My favorite example is always this; when buying a new car you are faced with gross depreciation and a huge environmental impact given the raw materials it takes to make a new car, and further, their negative dependency on fossil fuel. When buying a classic MB diesel, you have minimal to zero depreciation (based on your use), and very minimal raw materials needed to make these cars like new again, and best of all, you have numerous options of renewable and reusable fuel sources. Oh, and let’s not forget about the pleasure and fun you’ll have driving one of these unique, comfortably worn in beauties. ""


~ J.G. Francis

They are skeptical becasue they have nothing better to do than think that every Mercedes Diesel on earth is worth 800 dolllars in perfect shape,its a joke.These guys obviously have not visited the pacific northwest and know nothing of the fine supply of diesels we have here,see their posting from Indiana,Virginia and texas where with no offense the quality and supply leaves a lot to be desired,bunch of haters if you ask me,and alll that BS about tax evassion really shows theyr hatred and envy,period.
Thats why the value of their homes is 100-to 200k when out west you cant even buy a home in most cities for under 600-800k and thats for a bungalow.Youre just listening to the whine and envious talk of some.
These are Mercedes Benz cars.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...enger/slap.jpg
OUCH!! That post is going to leave a mark!:D

I LOVE the cars on their site, but would definitely have to see them in person before committing to a purchase. I might buy one sight unseen if they were 1/3 to 1/2 that price though.

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Here have a look,go ahead and make him an offer of 800 or 1500 then go finding things wrong with this one.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/cto/797767559.html

WOW ... that is my DREAM w116. Perfect color combo.:cool: All it needs is the lime green pinstripe like the one the hippies sold. I loved that pinstripe.

Wow!

I purchased my '80 TD with 56K miles here in Texas for $500. It still had Cal plates, title. Maybe I should drive it back west and sell. :D

They're worth whatever someone will pay.

In regards to haters on this site, I think most people here are very helpful when they really don't need to be. Everyone is looking for a bargain, including people here. Members also know that EVERY vintage Mercedes, with a few exceptions, are going to need repairs, some expensive. That's why when I look, I'd rather buy something cheap with a few problems than something expensive that is sure to develop problems.

I just did the rear axles on my car, and I'd rather spend a little extra on one that had good boots, for instance.

Cars on the West Coast can still be inexpensive if you look. Look at LA and San Diego craigslist! I bought my current ride from an elderly man for what I'd say is a bargain in Santa Monica when I was living there. Drove it cross country a few months after the purchase, as I didn't want to buy an east coast rust bucket for the same price. But anyhow, everyone here knows these dars are not cheap when you factor in repair, that's why nobody wants to spend 10-15K on a 25 year old car! And many people buy or have bought these cars for their "economy," despite the current price of diesel.

Every piece of rubber bushings, seals, axle boots... will be failing at an alarming rate.

I have bought several, really cheap, rust free, what would be considered "cherry", manual w123, 240Ds over the years up here in the PNW. All with some sort of problem that was easily fixed. Its a retirement hobby for me and if I added up the hours I had in most of those cars, I wouldn't make wages at a fast food joint;), The manual 240Ds are my daily drivers because my wife and I love them. I've never advertised on this forum or eBay but sold them mostly to friends and neighbors . Point is, I know what it takes to bring back one of these cars so I gota hand it to those "hippies";) Hint.. a running $500, 240D is usually worth just that. A broken down $500 240D CAN be worth a whole lot more, you just gota fix it:D

Those guys do a very nice job and all their cars look like I wish mine did. A lot of people are criticizing them but is still boils down to if you want to buy a car go look at it and check it out. Their prices are high but if they have put in the work that it looks like they have then it might be worth it. If you figure what all of us have put into these cars and then figure that labor at, say, $100 per hr. you would probably be into your car for more than they are charging for some of those. If I had the money I would go look at what they have, if nothing else it might be interesting to talk to them.

I simply don't have the $$$$ to drop on one of their cars, but there is something to be said for starting with a car that is that clean! Maybe at half their price, but that is due to what I would be willing to pay, and doesn't necessarily reflect the market.

Yeah, seriously, ouch.

I'm just saying their prices are high and they're probably curb stoners. They certainly do a good job cleaning these cars up, and look better than all 3 of my cars.

Take this most recent Brown 300d for instance, a buy it now for $17,000? The top of the market for a sedan seems to be around $10,000; I've never seen any sell for much more than that (except with these guys, supposedly)

It sounds like you're just jealous that YOU can't find a good deal.:D

[QUOTE=TylerH860;193967
It sounds like you're just jealous that YOU can't find a good deal.:D[/QUOTE]

Bingo:D:D

[IMG]http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/7258/ronald*****slapsxs1.jpg[/IMG]

LOL :D I've NEVER seen Tyler dressed like that.

This one is more like Tyler (the pimp doing the slapping): :D:D

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/b...r/PIMPslap.jpg

The only thing the northwest has a fine supply of is scammers taking advantage of the VO fad and boosting prices as high as suckers are willing to pay for them.