I can't seem to find any info on this car. My girlfriend just purchased it, and I'm looking for basic chassis information.


The car has a 617 under the hood. No Gorilla knob for glowplugs.




I'm lost. Maybe mis-badged? vin (as it's written on the retail order) is 115-114-12033142.

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-1983 VW Rabbit LS Diesel (5speed, VNT/Giles build)

If it's really a 115.114, it a '75 or '76 300D. If it's a '72, it should be a 220D with a 615 engine.

mis badged I bet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM617_engine#OM617.912

no 617 in a w115 until 74

Yeah AFAIK, the only 115 diesel pre-1974 was the OM615 220D. Where did she buy it? Maybe they just got the year wrong and its a 75 or 76.

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

swapped in i bet

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

is the door data sticker still there? that should give manufacture date. it's a place to start.

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Has to be a swap.

I was looking at a (what I thought) was a 1989 300E Sportline....

What it turned out to be was a 260E with the rear badge changed and the Sportline logo placed on the front fenders....

How did I know?...I checked the VIN...

Of course, the salesperson knew nothing about it...go figure...

BTW...I did not buy the car.

Just my 2¢ worth...

The Tenor Man

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1977 Mercedes Benz 240D - Loved it, but SLOWWW! - Succumbed to RUST!
1976 Mercedes Benz 240D - Same as above! -
1975 Mercedes Benz 240D - Same as above!

Could it be German?


it is indeed a 5 cylinder diesel. I'll check the door plate before any money is exchanged (she dosnt pick it up until Friday)


the Russian EPC lists a 220D 3.0, could somebody have switched it to a latter 300d tags just to show it has the bigger, meaner 5 cylinder?

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-1983 VW Rabbit LS Diesel (5speed, VNT/Giles build)

220d 3.0? never heard of such a thing. IIRC the 300 was not around til about 75 or 76.

Tom W

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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.

A google search of "220d 3.0" picks up a few mentions of the car on German forums that I can't really understand. Maybe it did exist, or was a special custom vehicle? Weird.

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

"115.114 240 D 3,0"

from the russian EPA site here: http://www.detali.ru/cat/oem_mb0.asp?TP=1


It looked like a 617. valve cover looked similar, but the intake mani was rounder than I remember seeing an a 617 (I've never owned one)






I wonder what the title will say.

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-1983 VW Rabbit LS Diesel (5speed, VNT/Giles build)

You're right, the "240D 3.0" is a OM617.910
Differs from the "300D" OM617.912 and later by having, as you noted, a rounder intake manifold and the oil filter is located under the servo pump instead of back of the IP.
Great engine if you want to convert a column shifted W108 or W111 to OM617.

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Tomas, Sweden
1966 Mercedes Benz 230S with OM617.912, automatic. Disk brakes from W108
1983 Mercedes Benz 300TD grey, OM617.912 and 5-speed manual
1983 Mercedes Benz 300TD blue 7-seater, OM617.912 and 5-speed manual

Wasn't the 240D 3.0 produced in 74-75, though? It's weird that monomer's car was sold as a "1972 300d." Guess it was just re-badged and then someone got confused about the year?

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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles
1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles
2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles
2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles
1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles
1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car)

It's being sold of a higher-end used car lot, on commission of one of the workers friends, so it could have gotten mixed up



we'll see as soon as I look the title over.

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-1983 VW Rabbit LS Diesel (5speed, VNT/Giles build)