I have two parts cars out back that are feeling 'unwanted' due to the amazing track record of the fleet (indestructible engines).

I'm considering using one for a throw away car to see how many miles I can get on a used, filtered motor oil/kero blend. Or would a oil/gas blend be better?

I've mixed in used oil before (small amounts, filtered) but with the price of fuel, I'm considering the experiment.

How many miles would you guess I could make it?

-diesel don

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'84 300DT 298k (Aubrey's)
'99.5 Jetta TDI IV 251k (Julie's)
'97 Jetta TDI 127k (Amber's)
'97 Jetta TDI 186k (Matt's)
'96 Passat TDI 237k (Don's
'84 300D 211k Mint (Arne- Undergoing Greasecar Conversion)

SOLD:
'82 240D 229k (Matt's - Converted-300DT w/ 4 speed

Instead of destroying a running car, why don't you sell/donate it so someone less fortunate can use it?

I'm guessing that you won't get more than 100,000miles out of used motor oil and kerosene.

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I've often thought about this. I just don't have a "throw-away" car.

I know there are suck a thing... even in the world of Mercedes there are cars that people just won't touch. so if you have one of these cars. I'd say go for it. I'm sure I'll get flamed for saying so, but what the heck its your car. why not.

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If I donated this car, it would be a liability. It can only come back together with all used parts and I'll have to nurse it along. I enjoy donating (have given two away to students in the youth group) but not this car.

I liked the 100,000 mile prediction !

-diesel don

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DAILY DRIVERS:
'84 300DT 298k (Aubrey's)
'99.5 Jetta TDI IV 251k (Julie's)
'97 Jetta TDI 127k (Amber's)
'97 Jetta TDI 186k (Matt's)
'96 Passat TDI 237k (Don's
'84 300D 211k Mint (Arne- Undergoing Greasecar Conversion)

SOLD:
'82 240D 229k (Matt's - Converted-300DT w/ 4 speed

Even if it only made it 100,000 miles it would have saved over $18,000 in fuel costs at the current prices. If the fuel is free and it lasts that long you could get the engine rebuilt and overhauled every 30k miles and still be saving money!

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'13 ML350 Bluetec - 95k - dad's (OC-98k)
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'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 148k - Brothers (OC-155k)

If it truly is such a "throwaway" car, then it'll most likely die from something OTHER than the fuel blend before the fuel blend "gets to it."

I agree with SirNik84: it's your car, go for it! There are already too many laws about what you can and cannot do with your own personal private property.

I would think on an oil/kero blend you could go at least 100,000 miles, but again it's more of a question about whether the REST of the car will stand up that long.

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'82 Chevy Chevette diesel

You know these cars. They are simple comprised of replaceable parts. I have a stable of running machines that I repair from the stable of non-running machines. I'll die before they do.

I think I'll roll her into the garage, repair the fuel lines, re-work the brakes and have a go at it.

-thanks for the replies

diesel don

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DAILY DRIVERS:
'84 300DT 298k (Aubrey's)
'99.5 Jetta TDI IV 251k (Julie's)
'97 Jetta TDI 127k (Amber's)
'97 Jetta TDI 186k (Matt's)
'96 Passat TDI 237k (Don's
'84 300D 211k Mint (Arne- Undergoing Greasecar Conversion)

SOLD:
'82 240D 229k (Matt's - Converted-300DT w/ 4 speed

Good luck!

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'82 Chevy Chevette diesel

I think it is a bad idea mostly because the motor oil has additives in it to help it resist burning. Some one working for the Dole Fruit Company (the company I worked for surviced there Carrier refer units and the diesel gensets that powered them)decided they could put their waste oil in with their diesel fuel and the result was it ruined alot of injectors and generated a lot of labor cost to replace them in the process. When the oil+fuel burned it left a hard white deposite in and around the 3 holes on the injectors eventually plugging some holes. As far as I could tell It caused no problem with the IP which is a Japanese version of the Bosch VE.
If you are going to do this sort of fuel mixing you might want to look up some of the blends that the military multifuel trucks could used (I have heard there is at least 30). That should offer some margin of safety.

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Sounds like running it for as long as you can on whatever you can find will be a better return on investment than anything else would gove you.

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Max 1984 300TD 285,000 miles - Sold
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2016 AMG GTS 12,000 miles

Diesel911:

Not many own the Volvo diesel. I had an 84 with the 244dl. How do you like it?
Mine was a great car but the slowest thing on the face of the earth (even a 4 speed with OD)

diesel don

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DAILY DRIVERS:
'84 300DT 298k (Aubrey's)
'99.5 Jetta TDI IV 251k (Julie's)
'97 Jetta TDI 127k (Amber's)
'97 Jetta TDI 186k (Matt's)
'96 Passat TDI 237k (Don's
'84 300D 211k Mint (Arne- Undergoing Greasecar Conversion)

SOLD:
'82 240D 229k (Matt's - Converted-300DT w/ 4 speed

Being that it's a throw-away, I think it's a valid use. Provided the lubricity is adequate, should be, the pH isn't totally out-of-whack, should be okay, and that it is filtered properly, and reasonably close in viscosity (viscosity will partially determine the fuel metering from the pump/nozzles) ... it should run fine. Might have to add some modifers to get it to burn clean, might not have the energy that D2 has, but at very least we can learn a lot from the failure mode whether it's injection system failure or sticking rings.

I say go for it.

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i use to have such a car...actually it was a 1991 jetta eco.. the engine had been burned up a little old lady ran it without water for like 50 miles it melted everything about it even the radiator neck which was plastic melter before the head melted into the piston. Well we had it somewhat rebuilt with a few questionable parts the guy put it back together not knowing the head gasket's were numbered with how far the piston/valve clearance was anyhow i ended up with like a 26 or 27 to 1 engine and at like 4K rpm the valves were hittting. Anyhow seeing and figuring out it had done damage i went ahead and started running a 50% mix of used fleet oil and diesel donated by my dad's work. Well it works ok hard starting and smokes like fricken freight train but i ran it till the valves were at a 45 degree angle bout it and the piston had a good 1/4 - 3/8" indents where the valve had been hitting. But ah if u have a junker why not it's fun

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1982 300D Turbo 231K 120hp? 28.1mpg YTD

Engine oil is engineered not to burn, so your forcing it to do something it won't by adding a volatile fuel to it. Your not at all likely to go for 100,000 miles, not even 10,000 or 5000 miles without some sort of damage that will make a good engine useless. Motor oil carbonises the cylinder so badly that it's likely to score and ruin your cylinder walls when used as fuel! If you do this it's very likely you won't even have an engine worth rebuilding and the smoke plus fumes coming out the tailpipe will get the attention of every sherriff in the state.

Motor oil is disposed of also because impurities and metal fragments in your IP will surely ruin it and if they do get past the injectors, say goodbye!

If this was viable more companies using fleet vehicles would be doing it.