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Old 04-12-2008, 08:18 PM
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I know the newer models had WAAAAY more power than the turbo benz of similar years. and fantastic mileage.
popping noise is kind of hard to diagnose in text... perhaps you can record an audio clip or video of the engine with the noise, and post it here?
it could be as simple as a blown exhaust manifold gasket...
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Old 04-12-2008, 08:55 PM
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I would not agree they had WAAAAAAAy mor power. I am not sure I would even agree they had any more power.

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Old 04-12-2008, 09:03 PM
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Does anyone here have much experience with the old GM diesels?

I'm looking at buying an 84 Cadillac Seville diesel (with NO leaks ) that needs a new oil pump (about an $80 part). Body and interior are in beautiful condition.

So what do you guys think? Is it worth the $700? Or should I try to talk him down? I was thinking just getting a non-leaky running GM V8 diesel might be worth almost that much...

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Old 04-12-2008, 09:07 PM
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I know the newer models had WAAAAY more power than the turbo benz of similar years.
Per L of displacment the 5.7L Diesel has had WAAAAY less power than even MB's 240D.

The early engine had 120hp and 220lb/ft torque, later ones had less.

That is 21hp/L for the 5.7 and 30hp/L for the OM616. Consider the OM617a that had as much power and only 40lb/ft less torque with 40hp/L and was in production for the same length of time (78-85) and the GM diesel comes out pretty pathetic.

To be on the same scale as a 617a, it would have to put out 228hp, 171hp to match the OM616. Much more than the 5.7 is capable of without puking parts on the road.
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Old 04-12-2008, 09:21 PM
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Sounds like it might be time for a Cadillac-Benz... LOL
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Old 04-12-2008, 10:01 PM
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really? that low HP huh... the 'seat of the pants" power to weight, not power to Liter is what any driver cares about... the two wagons I drove were tanks but they sure did haul. they handled all the towing and cargo I could throw at it and the puking parts aside, they were pretty nice vehicles.
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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

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1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

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Old 04-12-2008, 10:32 PM
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If the popping noise comes from the air intake, then its probably a broken rocker arm pivot. Common part used in both gas and diesels in those years. Is necc. to remove the fuel hard line "spider" assembly to remove valve covers. DO NOT bend the hard lines to get in there! I was there when these were new. Much more powerful and shifted better than my 300CD. The block was a high nickel content block so it was much stronger than the normal cast iron 350.
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Old 04-12-2008, 11:53 PM
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If the popping noise comes from the air intake, then its probably a broken rocker arm pivot. Common part used in both gas and diesels in those years. Is necc. to remove the fuel hard line "spider" assembly to remove valve covers. DO NOT bend the hard lines to get in there! I was there when these were new. Much more powerful and shifted better than my 300CD. The block was a high nickel content block so it was much stronger than the normal cast iron 350.
Thanks for the info, Carnut! I'll look into there and see what I can find...
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