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aaronkobi 03-24-2008 07:50 PM
Do I NEED to remove my front wheels to replace shocks?
 
Just ordered some front shocks for my 1984 300TD and I saw in the DIY forum that another user took their front wheels off to do the job. When looking at my shock, I have clear access to it without removing the wheel. Was just wondering, is there a reason why I need to remove the wheel or is this just to give more room to work?

Knightrider966 03-24-2008 07:54 PM
Removing the wheel makes it a lot easier to work on the car!;) There just simply isn't enough room to remove and replace a shock with the wheel on safely.;)

Ara T. 03-24-2008 08:16 PM
Removing a wheel takes what, 2 minutes at the most? How much more time do you think it would take you to do shocks if you had the stupid tire in the way. A lot more than 2 minutes per side.

aaronkobi 03-24-2008 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Ara T. (Post 1802823)
Removing a wheel takes what, 2 minutes at the most? How much more time do you think it would take you to do shocks if you had the stupid tire in the way. A lot more than 2 minutes per side.
It's not as much a matter of time as it is convenient place to do the work (ie, it would be much easier for me to do this with the tires on than removing them and putting the car up on jack stands).

Chas H 03-24-2008 08:32 PM
Jack up one wheel, remove it, and change the shock. No need to put the entire car on stands.

MBeige 03-24-2008 08:42 PM
I don't see how or why it would be easier to do what you're trying to do with the wheels installed.

Maybe the one you read was for a newer model chassis, if so then probably yes you don't have to remove the wheel. The newer cars that still have separate springs and shocks have upper shock mounts that go into the engine bay and are removed that way. I read something similar before, I think it was also here that I read something like that.

However, on a W123 it's different. The upper shock mounts do not allow the shock to be removed via the hole in the engine bay, but rather out through the wheel well.

Chas H 03-24-2008 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by MBeige (Post 1802841)
I don't see how or why it would be easier to do what you're trying to do with the wheels installed.

Maybe the one you read was for a newer model chassis, if so then probably yes you don't have to remove the wheel. The newer cars that still have separate springs and shocks have upper shock mounts that go into the engine bay and are removed that way. I read something similar before, I think it was also here that I read something like that.

However, on a W123 it's different. The upper shock mounts do not allow the shock to be removed via the hole in the engine bay, but rather out through the wheel well.
Having just changed the shocks on my 124, I can tell you that it is imperative to first remove the wheel as it is attached to the shock.

bgkast 03-24-2008 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Chas H (Post 1802880)
Having just changed the shocks on my 124, I can tell you that it is imperative to first remove the wheel as it is attached to the shock.

So does the shock spin around while the wheels are turning on a W124? :confused:




:D Just Kidding

Chas H 03-24-2008 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bgkast (Post 1802883)
So does the shock spin around while the wheels are turning on a W124? :confused:
:D Just Kidding
I s'pose it could if the job were botched.

tangofox007 03-24-2008 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Chas H (Post 1802880)
I can tell you that it is imperative to first remove the wheel as it is attached to the shock.
I'll bet that came as a shock!!! Would have shocked me, anyway.

Hatterasguy 03-24-2008 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by aaronkobi (Post 1802829)
It's not as much a matter of time as it is convenient place to do the work (ie, it would be much easier for me to do this with the tires on than removing them and putting the car up on jack stands).
You need to unload the shock to get it out.

aaronkobi 03-25-2008 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Hatterasguy (Post 1802951)
You need to unload the shock to get it out.
Thanks Hatterasguy, that's basically what I was wondering. Will do!

NDP 2.6 190E 03-25-2008 02:18 AM
The front shock absorbers also serve as a deflection stop for the front wheels. For this reason, only detach the shock absorber when the vehicle is resting on its wheels or the lower control arm is supported.

Otherwise you could be in for a 'shock' when the spring launches out at you ;)

Shawn D. 03-25-2008 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by NDP 2.6 190E (Post 1803167)
The front shock absorbers also serve as a deflection stop for the front wheels. For this reason, only detach the shock absorber when the vehicle is resting on its wheels or the lower control arm is supported.

Otherwise you could be in for a 'shock' when the spring launches out at you ;)
That's not going to happen on a W123. The top control arm bottoms out and the spring is way too long to come out in that manner.

Hatterasguy 03-25-2008 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by NDP 2.6 190E (Post 1803167)
The front shock absorbers also serve as a deflection stop for the front wheels. For this reason, only detach the shock absorber when the vehicle is resting on its wheels or the lower control arm is supported.

Otherwise you could be in for a 'shock' when the spring launches out at you ;)
Won't happen on a W126. I used a jack to lower the control arm so I could get the shock out.


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