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That said there will be more "checks and balances" on diesel prices where a similar disparity in Europe might cause demonstrations, truckers blockading the roads, and general pressure to "correct" any inequality.
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Supply problem
Since the rest of the western world helps supply China and India with refined fuels it puts a monetary incentive for the industry in the US to export to Europe and the other developing countries that are willing to pay the premium price it demands. There isn't enough refining capacity overseas for diesel demand to be satisfied. Right now there is a sulplus of gasoline stocks here but a deficit in diesel stocks. The speculators in refined petroleum especially diesel are making a huge profit. Capitalism at it's best-worst!!
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How does this theory work again? Higher diesel prices should encourange the production of biodiesel...
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I'm going with leathermang's theory. Truckers can't wake up and decide not to drive because diesel is to high. Or farmers can't decide not to plant or plow their field . They will use it anyways regardless of cost (to a certain point)
Some one knows this... maybe the oil companies? Hmmm
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Don't be silly, of course it's a conspiracy.
Name one business in a free market that when cost of goods sold increases, profits increase astronomically?? You can't do it...you can't even name one, because it's impossible in a free market. So...it's NOT A FREE MARKET. It's a MONOPOLY. Which is supported by Washington D.C. (essentially Organized Crime), which is supported by rubes and simpletons called: "voters". |
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Iraqi solution
Frontline on PBS last night...Iraqi fuel tanker drivers filling up their tankers as
much as 50% with H2O and Pirating the rest.(Thank God, we don't buy any Iraqi Diesel) That would be the oil companies wildest dreams in this country. Wells Fargo,Loomis and Blackwater running armed fuel convoys in CONUS. Their worst nightmare is someone running the government that they can't control.
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this is normal
I've been watching the price of gas vs. diesel for a number of years, way longer than I've actually owned a diesel. I probably do it because misery loves company -- I have to buy premium gas for the Volvo and diesel is the only fuel whose price fluctuates with respect to gas.
Over the years, I've observed a consistent trend of diesel prices going up as compared to gas just at the end of heating oil season. In years with colder than normal spring temperatures, diesel soars more than in years with warmer spring temps. Some years, diesel gets really close to the cost for premium gas. I can't recall it ever topping premium gas like it is now, but yes, this escalation in prices has been happening annually for as long as I can remember. I've always chalked it up to competition with heating oil since there seems to be a correlation with springtime temperatures. I've been out of the midwest for a number of years now, but isn't this an unprecedented cold, snowy spring for the most populated half of the country? It sure seems like that's the case from here. That would drive end of season heating oil demand sky high, and since D#2 is a competing product, affect it as well. I'm normally a strong adherent of the oil company conspiracy theory, but in this one case, I think it is simply unexpected competition with heating oil. I sure feel for the truckers though, and through them, for all of us, as diesel-price-driven inflation takes an abrupt turn in the wrong direction.
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