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kingdoc1 03-27-2008 09:56 AM

Why no tach amp in 85 300d?
 
while retrofitting a tach to my 82 240d, I noticed that my 85 300d does not have a tach amp under the hood. What drives the tach? Is the amplifier in the tach in the 85?

ForcedInduction 03-27-2008 09:59 AM

The EGR computer drives the tachometer which picks up its signal from the flywheel sensor.

mobetta 03-27-2008 10:17 AM

good info, forced- any ideas on failure causes in this year?? I shoved ciggarette butts somewhere- but it didnt work......

Brian Carlton 03-27-2008 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1805885)
The EGR computer drives the tachometer which picks up its signal from the flywheel sensor.

I don't think it can be the EGR computer because the '84 doesn't have a tach amp and it doesn't have an EGR computer.

ForcedInduction 03-27-2008 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1805922)
I don't think it can be the EGR computer because the '84 doesn't have a tach amp and it doesn't have an EGR computer.

I believe it does, especially since a tach can be added to the later 240D using the EGR computer.

Brian Carlton 03-27-2008 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1805931)
I believe it does, especially since a tach can be added to the later 240D using the EGR computer.

Where is the EGR computer on the '84??

ForcedInduction 03-27-2008 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Carlton (Post 1805957)
Where is the EGR computer on the '84??

Should be in the passenger kick panel.

Brian Carlton 03-27-2008 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 1805965)
Should be in the passenger kick panel.

Does it have a different name or function? It doesn't have anything to do with the EGR on the '84.

kingdoc1 03-27-2008 11:36 AM

Thanks, that helps my curiosity, especially since i had a hard time even finding the tach wiring in the mb wiring prints when I was putting the tach in my 240. I ended up just using all the components from a 82 300D and tracing the wires the hard way.

lietuviai 03-27-2008 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mobetta (Post 1805902)
good info, forced- any ideas on failure causes in this year?? I shoved ciggarette butts somewhere- but it didnt work......

A very well hidden fuse located behind the glove box is a very common cause for in-op tach.

JimmyL 03-27-2008 11:47 AM

Here is a pic of the EGR computer with the passenger kick panel removed. {courtesy of TheDon}

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...GRcomputer.jpg

It does effect tach function.....

OldPokey 03-27-2008 11:58 AM

Check out this Thread.

My 84 FEDERAL model TD does not have a tach amp nor does it have an EGR computer like a California model would have. I don't know about 1985 models, but you may find you don't have an EGR controller either.

Below is a detail on how the engine speed sensor connects to the tachometer - note that there is no tach amp, and that the federal and California models are different!

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/...0&d=1160955694

kingdoc1 03-27-2008 12:34 PM

now I am confused, does only the california version have the egr computer?

TheDon 03-27-2008 12:50 PM

its all magic

OldPokey 03-27-2008 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kingdoc1 (Post 1806057)
now I am confused, does only the california version have the egr computer?

I don't know. My only experience with a Benz of any sort is my 300TD. Look for the EGR controller - if it's not there, you simply don't have one and the tach amp has been folded into the tachometer itself.


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