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Old 04-04-2008, 12:10 PM
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Spare hubbies to paint!

Run'em (Max) sent us a note about a decent-looking set of white hubbies on eBay at a very good starting bid. You may want to check them out -- item # 280214680540. Don't know what it would take to paint them, but they might be good to have around just for GPs.

I'm SO glad all ours are bundt wheels -- it would make me crazy[ier] to loose one of those pretty hubbies and think about someone driving over it and flattening it....!

Wish us luck -- I brought home 4 new boots we hope to installl on axles for the silver 300SD this weekend, using the greased-funnel system. If you're not familiar with it, check out "CV boots" on youtube -- Max sent us links to several versions of the funnel system, and we've decided to try it. It OUGHT to work...then there are oil cooler lines to replace on the new -- gorgeous! -- green SD, so we have a busy car maintaining weekend planned.

Hope everyone's weekend is pleasant and productive and safe!!

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Old 04-04-2008, 12:17 PM
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Jimmy, has Scar been crushed yet? The trailing arms should still be good...
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Old 04-04-2008, 01:18 PM
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Run'em (Max) sent us a note about a decent-looking set of white hubbies on eBay at a very good starting bid. You may want to check them out -- item # 280214680540. Don't know what it would take to paint them, but they might be good to have around just for GPs.
I actually have 4 extra Silver hubbbies and 4 extra White hubbies {whites are spares for the wagon, Silvers were from the smoker.
I have 2 of the Silvers on the passenger side of China. I found one of the 2 missing on the side of the hwy and will probably use it to match paint color and get me a spray can made up.
Sounds like an awesome weekend of car maintenance planned. You and John have fun with that. Who knows what can happen when everybody gets all greased up......


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Jimmy, has Scar been crushed yet? The trailing arms should still be good...
I'm still leaning towards the weld up the hole method. Not sure how I would deal with the coil spring at the yard......
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'85 300TD 235K "The Wagon" Texas Friendly White
'80 240D 154K "China" Scar engine installed
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Old 04-18-2008, 03:22 AM
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I thought I would make a quick separate thread out of this, but will also add it to my China thread. {my China diary}
Quick review: Yesterday was driving down the freeway when cars started swerving in front of me. Something huge in the middle left lane, so I went right, got around the monstrosity, but slammed over something metallic that whammed the bottom of the car violently and blew both rear hubbies off!
Well, I didn't put China up on ramps today, but before I went to work I crawled kinda under the sides and just gave a cursory inspection. It wasn't hard to spot!
This is the drivers side rear trailing arm:





Well, I certainly see the impact spot. Well, I can't fit under the car so I just stuck the camera under there as far as I could and snapped a couple other angles. Those are the ones that show the extent of the damage, and it ain't pretty:


No big deal you say? Well, it gets worse.







Dang!!

So, do you think there is any way I could go to some type of muffler shop, or similar welder and have that thing shored up, strengthened and make sure the crack/split is stopped, or is the awful job of replacing {and buying} the rear trailing arm in my future?
I know it will be easy to say "nope, you need to replace the trailing arm", but I really am hoping beyond hope a competent welder could handle this.
Honest opinions would be most appreciative.
Still driving her.......
Much of the strength in this part is from the engineered geometric arch shapes.

It is structurally compromised now = accident waiting to happen.
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:14 PM
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Whats the status of this problem, did you replace the trailing arm?

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Old 04-18-2008, 09:40 PM
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Jimmy, do you still need help?
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Old 04-19-2008, 02:01 AM
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I have been driving China almost a hunnert miles a day since the "event" on the hwy. I have been thinking that I would just have it welded up.
I wish it had been the other side as I could swear I hear that rear wheel bearing squeaking from time to time.
I had a nice offer from RichC to weld it up, but I'm inclined to let a "professional" handle this job. Rich, I hope you don't take offense.
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Old 04-19-2008, 09:38 AM
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Jimmy, If I find the time I'll pull the trailing arm from 'old silver'.

Maybe early this next week.

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Roy doesn't type much these days, but he's VERY concerned about you -- and China! -- because he believes she is not safe.

He told me you really need to replace the arm, not weld it. He's actually gotten into measuring the pics and such, and says the arch is altered enough to mean the structural support it provides is compromised.

I wish it was a w126 -- I could get you a trailing arm in about 20 minutes! But it sounds like Whiskeydan is taking care of that. And with Dave's offer of his spring compressor, it shouldn't be that big a deal. Actually, dropping the rear end is easier than squashing the spring, at least on the w126. I presume the w123 is not that different -- things that changed between the two chassis seened to get harder with the w126, not easier!

Let us know how we can help.
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:19 PM
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Replace it.....

The structural arch is compromised = strength reduction + unknown alteration of wheel alignment.

Ask "dmorrison" if he would taxi a freight plane with suspension damage similar to this...

I would expect an extreme NEGATIVE answer.....
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Old 04-21-2008, 03:50 PM
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Jimmy,

I hope you are driving the white wagon...

Call or PM me if you need and help!
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:32 AM
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Fyi:

1985 300SD RR trailing arm rust pictures
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why it was critical to change it.
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Old 04-27-2008, 02:08 AM
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Jimmy, has Scar been crushed yet? The trailing arms should still be good...


LOL, Jimmy and I saw that old boy out at PnP Dallas.
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Old 04-27-2008, 02:22 PM
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1985 300SD RR trailing arm rust pictures
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why it was critical to change it.
1985 300SD RR trailing arm rust pictures

That rust through certainly didn't happen overnight. I could drive China as-is for years without doing a thing and it wouldn't be that bad......
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'81 240D 293K"Scar" Rear ended harder than Elton John
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:41 AM
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"That rust through certainly didn't happen overnight. I could drive China as-is for years without doing a thing and it wouldn't be that bad......"

No, Roy's rust didn't happen overnight, but the structural damage to China did.

We all hope Roy's wrong and you're right about the engineering issues.

But then again, why take the chance when you don't have to and so many have offered to help?

Sunny

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