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Old 04-18-2008, 03:01 AM
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Is it possible to find a 190d 2.5L 5-speed?

I guess that they were sold here from scattered references on these boards, but I'm guessing that they're few and far between. If they are available, how expensive are they?

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Old 04-18-2008, 03:39 AM
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They are somewhat common, but non-turbo only with a manual. I'd pay about $5-6000 for one in really good shape.
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Most of the 88-90 190D 2.5's with manual transmissions that we saw(new) were used by "Freightliner" sales reps for 18 months & then went to auction!
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:20 AM
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I tore the head off one two months ago... It had a good body and interior but a trashed engine..
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:53 AM
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Most of the 88-90 190D 2.5's with manual transmissions that we saw(new) were used by "Freightliner" sales reps for 18 months & then went to auction!
I think I get your point (engine is trashed?) but just out of curiosity, what's a Freightliner rep?
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Old 04-18-2008, 08:56 AM
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They are somewhat common, but non-turbo only with a manual. I'd pay about $5-6000 for one in really good shape.
Thanks! What's the power/acceleration/"fun factor" difference between a turbo and a non-turbo 190d? Does the MT make up for the loss of the turbo in your opinion? Somehow I can't see driving an AT for a non-DD.
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Old 04-18-2008, 09:14 AM
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I think I get your point (engine is trashed?) but just out of curiosity, what's a Freightliner rep?
Freightliner truck sales representative.

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TD versus D - 5 speed vs auto.

A 190d 2.5T will blow away a 2.5 non-turbo regardless of the transmissions. I've had several combinations of these cars - check my sig line, and I'm buying another body shell this weekend for a transplant.

Many people will say that the 2.5Turbo is better suited to the auto trans due to the turbo remaining at boost during shifts. However, the 2.5 T with a 5-speed is a hoot to drive also.

My favorite combo is the 2.5T engine and a 5-speed transmsission. These were not available in the US, but they are not too tough to build. You can start with a 2.5T with a bad auto trans. These are not too uncommon, as the auto trans seems to be a weak link. Then get everything you need for the swap from a 2.3 5-speed gasser. These are fairly easy to find.

Then just bolt the parts together.

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