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202k Miles W210 Stuck Glowplug
It is my turn to go through this experience. I have a W210 with 202k miles on it. I was changing the glowplugs. All came out with one exception the one near the oil filter (see attached picture. Any advise on how to get it out?
I read all posts - my case is a little different - not much room. PAT
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You may have to get an angle drill or remove the oil filter housing for access.
http://alan.mcreynolds.googlepages.com/howtoremovebrokenglowplugs-mercedesom606 Tape off your valve inlets b4 going further.
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Terry Allison N. Calif. & Boca Chica, Panama 09' E320 Bluetec 77k (USA) 09' Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel 48k (S.A.) |
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Terry,
Thanks a lot. I checked the attached picture on how to remove the oil filter housing - but I am not sure I have the right one. How many bolts is holding the housing to the engine? Do you know? PAT
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Does it move at all?
If it moves, then just take it slow. I was in your shoes three weeks ago. Make sure the engine is warm when you are trying to turn it. I definitely noticed that the glow plugs turned easier with a warm engine as opposed to a cold one. Also, make sure you don't push it. Turn it 1/2 a turn a day and just spray penetrating oil on it. I used power blaster, which I bough from the local auto parts store. I also purchased Kano oil, because someone suggested it. At one point I was spraying both. Good luck.
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If you had a 8" drill bit extension you may "almost" get a clear shot at the GP if the cap were removed from the filter housing??? If you try that, tape the openning off so nothing gets in there either.
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It is not moving at all because the hexagon faces were rounded off. I used almost a full can of Kroil. It worked well on five glow plugs, even for the 6th - it is unscrewed about 25%. But then it got stuck. It took me 3 days to get here.
I also read that I should have used Beru Grease GKF 01 to prevent the new GP from being stuck in the future. Hopefully I will get some tomorrow from Beru in Auburn Hills, MI which is not that far. So I am planning to unscrew the 5 new GP and apply grease then remount them. I removed the oil cap but I still have not enough space for the drill. I have to take out the oil housing.
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I had the same problem and ended up taking the head off , it was then sent to a specialist head centre who still could get it out -
They eventually bored a large hole to which they inserted a solid block of ally and re-engineered. |
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How much did that cost?
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I used a deep 6 face socket which actually rounded off the faces. Then I cut off a portion of the GP to try to use a regular socket. It did not worked. Right now I am trying to get the oil filter housing off. However I read that I have to remove the starter as well and that I have to replace a number of o-rings on the housing.
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I managed to source a second hand head which I sent at the same time which is the one I had reconditioned - my original head required the above which would have meant waiting 2/3 weeks for the work to be done.
The cost for just the head reconditioning (no bolts or gaskets) was £300 sterling, that includes a skim, new valve stems and seals. If you want a blow by blow painful account of me trying to get the glow plug out here's a link: http://www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum/viewthread.php?tid=5202 Btw, this was for the multi-valve OM 605 diesel which is one of the most expensive bar its cousin the 606. |
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I think a link to your misfortune was posted here not too long ago.
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Something like this comes to mind: http://www.bt-andf.com/products.php http://www.irwin.com/irwin/consumer/jhtml/detail.jhtml;jsessionid=5IYPDEBRNZRD0CQHUB2CGWQKA4QGIJCK?prodId=IrwinProd100512 I have even used a small pipe wrench or vice-grips to get out rounded nuts in the past with success.
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Marty,
thank you for your advice. I tried a socket which grabs the round-off faces without success. As you can see from the picture I have no space for vice-grips or pipe wrench. I am still working to get it out using the tap + drill method Alan did some time ago. Maybe I get lucky - otherwise if I drill through the head I am in big trouble. By the way can somebody suggest a shop in Detroit area where I can take the car and have it done by them? How much it could cost? PAT
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