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Old 05-22-2008, 11:40 AM
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Going Sat to look, pretty decent turn over rate and quantity at the local yard. Eagleco98 has one I believe and he is in FL.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:44 AM
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Going Sat to look, pretty decent turn over rate and quantity at the local yard. Eagleco98 has one I believe and he is in FL.

i sent him a PM, but no response. I will keep looking. for now I am going to change the rear to 2.47, this will give me about the same as a .8 overdrive 5th gear, difference is my first gear is now much more steep, but I have been starting out in second all week and its no big deal, im not trying to win any drag races
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There are a couple of 190 5speeds on ebay. read the fine print one guy wants 250.00 for shipping.
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:41 PM
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There are a couple of 190 5speeds on ebay. read the fine print one guy wants 250.00 for shipping.

im hoping another shows up at the pnp, they only wanted $100
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Old 05-23-2008, 05:51 AM
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You could use a 5spd out of a Sprinter (been done here) also you could use a Fiat box of the same era , also been done , both require a bit of engineering , but you expected that, eh.
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Old 05-23-2008, 07:05 AM
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You could use a 5spd out of a Sprinter (been done here)
Every Sprinter in the USA is automatic.
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Old 05-25-2008, 12:10 PM
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ratios

Anyone know the gear ratios and rear axle ratios in the 240D. I know they should be on the net here somewhere. Fiat transmissions I have , 3 or 4 laying around. They look a bit longer, 2nd and 3rd gear synchros always go bad. I have to pull my 4 speed anyway, 3rd gear synchro is shot. I an going to take some good measurements when I have it out. Anyone know where I can get a bellhousing for an early style 4speed I tink any swap would be easiest with a trans with removeable bellhousing. Of course the later 4 speeds are one piece. The fiat bellhousing bolts on, like some ford gm. If you start with the mercedes bellhousing, dont have to worry about starter placement, block alignment.
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Old 05-25-2008, 06:50 PM
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It depends on the year.
to Sep80, 3.90-2.30-1.41-1.00 R3.66
Oct80-Aug83, 3.91-2.32-1.42-1.00 R3.78
Sep83 on, 4.23-2.36-1.49-1.00 R4.10

All had a 3.69 diff ratio.
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Old 05-26-2008, 12:47 AM
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is the 5 sp manual trans from a 190 a direct bolt on for a w123 with a manual trans?
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Old 05-26-2008, 12:48 AM
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No. The starter is on the wrong side. Only the 5-speed from a gray market (Non-US) 240D, 300D or 280E will work.
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Old 05-26-2008, 01:35 AM
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it might be easier to tackle a chevy t5, except the rear has a slip yoke.
Whats the problem with a slip yoke? Just get a driveline built that incorporates the slip yoke. Am I missing something?

Starting to think about doing something like that myself. I can get T-5's all the time for $55
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Old 05-26-2008, 01:50 AM
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A slip yoke can be easy. Make an aluminum or steel plate to bolt in place of the flexdisk on the driveshaft and weld a yoke onto it.
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Old 05-26-2008, 09:03 AM
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Whats the problem with a slip yoke? Just get a driveline built that incorporates the slip yoke. Am I missing something?

Starting to think about doing something like that myself. I can get T-5's all the time for $55

looked to me that if you drew a straight line from the back of the tranny to the rear pinion it will hit a lot of things, maybe not but i was it is a potential problem and would have to be delt with somehow
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:18 AM
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Maybe I need to take a closer look at the driveshaft configuration on these. Does it not go straight back already? I honestly have not looked at it much.
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Old 05-26-2008, 10:16 PM
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the slip yoke is designed to have a pair of resonant angled U joints attached to it. if you install a straight shaft like the MB uses, to a slip joint shaft, don't you think there will be a lot of drivetrain noise transferred to the body?
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