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Old 06-01-2008, 10:40 PM
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22mpg in a 240- can I do better?

My son clocked his milage at 22 today. It's a 240 D automatic. Aside from clean air filters, tire inflation, and good driving habits, can I do something to tweak the IP or check the timing of it to possibly increase the milage? He does 1/2 of his driving on short trips to and from school and the engine doesn't have time to warm up properly. What are some other's 240 milage claims?

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Old 06-01-2008, 10:54 PM
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For mixed driving that sounds pretty good actually.

i would expect about 17 18 around town and 23 to 25 max highway with a slushbox.

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Old 06-01-2008, 10:57 PM
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Yes, for short trips on a cold engine with an automatic 22mpg is good. Highschool guys aren't known for good driving skills, especially with a low power car. Most will treat the thorttle as an on/off switch no matter what you do.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:25 PM
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Most will treat the thorttle as an on/off switch no matter what you do.
Its a good way to check floor pan inegrity.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:28 PM
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Highschool guys aren't known for good driving skills, especially with a low power car. Most will treat the thorttle as an on/off switch no matter what you do.
That applies to pretty much EVERY 240D driving situation. It's the only way you can drive it and not get flattened by a semi.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:34 PM
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half throttle , full throttle its not much difference.

The throttle in a 240d, especially the automatics is more like a placebo thermostat!

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Old 06-01-2008, 11:39 PM
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My son clocked his milage at 22 today. It's a 240 D automatic. Aside from clean air filters, tire inflation, and good driving habits, can I do something to tweak the IP or check the timing of it to possibly increase the milage? He does 1/2 of his driving on short trips to and from school and the engine doesn't have time to warm up properly. What are some other's 240 milage claims?
22 MPG is not bad for city driving in stop and go traffic. I get close to 40 on the highway, but about 32 is my average. However, I'm burning biodiesel which is a lubricant moreso than diesel. I also adjusted my timing to 27 BTDC to make up for Biodiesel being sluightly less combustible than Diesel.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:43 PM
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biodiesel which is a lubricant moreso than diesel.
Fuel lubricity makes no difference in economy.
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Old 06-01-2008, 11:48 PM
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half throttle , full throttle its not much difference.

The throttle in a 240d, especially the automatics is more like a placebo thermostat!

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I agree, I almost never go past about 1/2 or 3/4 throttle on the 240. You can feel when it's out of power, more peddle doesn't do anything except make a little extra noise. The only exception is a long highway hill where it will eventually wind out that last little bit of power/speed.
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Old 06-02-2008, 01:36 AM
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Fuel lubricity makes no difference in economy.
Of course it does! It reduces friction. My idle went up once it got through the tank and flushed all the dino out. That only happens when friction is being reduced. Reduced friction= better fuel economy.
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Old 06-02-2008, 02:09 AM
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The best economy I ever got in my TDI was when I was running 5% bio. Got 56.3 that tank...

EDIT: But now that I think about it that doesn't have much to do with the inline pumps on our Benzes as they are lubricated by the engine oil, not the fuel like the rotary pumps fitted to VWs.

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Old 06-02-2008, 02:20 AM
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Of course it does! It reduces friction. My idle went up once it got through the tank and flushed all the dino out.
That is the solvent effect cleaning the injectors and lines that changed how it runs. Fuel lubrication does not affect fuel economy.

Reduced friction= better fuel economy is true but not measurably from the fuel.

The fuel's lubrication quality affects pump and injector wear.

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