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Old 06-04-2008, 12:00 PM
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Can bad Water Pump cause this?

I replaced the radiator yesterday, and noticed that there was some play in the water pump. When I jiggled the base of the fan blades, there was noticable play, like when your wheel bearings are loose - vertical play, not rotational play.

I'm not noticing any leaking through the weephole though. BUT, I have a very noticable and audible vibration from about 1500 - 2000 revs while driving or standing still. I've tried to locate the source of the noise but it is not apparent.

To try solve the vibration, I have put in new inj. Nozzles (balanced), adjusted the valves, checked the timing chain stretch (that's how I had to replace the radiator - I forgot I left the wrench on the crankshaft and started the car up and it made a hole in the radiator. LOVELY!)

But still there is this vibration. It sounds like something is loose, like a rattling metal bracket or something, but I can't find anything loose.

Could it be the waterpump bearings rattling? I can post a sound file if anyone would recognise a rattling water pump. I'm reluctant to replace the waterpump without being sure it needs it - I had all my radiator fun last night til about 10pm, thanks very much. Stupid aftermarket crap - oil cooler bracket didn't fit right, and the dam thing doesn't have drain holes. Geez.

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Old 06-04-2008, 12:47 PM
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Is the play in the fan coupleing or the water pump/housing? I'm assuming your are talking about you w123.
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Old 06-04-2008, 01:45 PM
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I When I jiggled the base of the fan blades, there was noticable play, like when your wheel bearings are loose - vertical play, not rotational play.
Could the play be in the fan clutch? A worn clutch can cause the described condition.
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:18 PM
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My bad, I thought everybody had a W123 cos they're the coolest cars....

W123 doesn't have a clutch (at least not this 83 240D)

There didn't seem to be any way for there to be play in the housing - the fan seems to bolt directly onto the pump - and it was on tight, so it must have been from the pump.
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:35 PM
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Make a very short drive with the belt removed. See if the noise goes away.
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My bad, I thought everybody had a W123 cos they're the coolest cars....
The "coolest" W123's do have fan clutches!!!

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