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Old 06-07-2008, 02:36 PM
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I'm sure they do, probably under MTU.

MB makes a lot more than cars, their cars are but one division.

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Old 06-07-2008, 04:19 PM
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I'd love a diesel string trimmer! A diesel mower would be awesome too....nothing like diesel exhaust smell while mowing.....I'd be out there all the time!
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Old 06-07-2008, 07:32 PM
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If Mecedes made a Generator, we would all be trying to buy 25 year old ones and be here talking about all the crap it takes to keep them running.... no thanks!!!!!
Considering how reliable my Mercedes Benz has been all 288,704 miles of it, I'll take a 26 year old Mercedes anything over a ricer.
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Old 06-07-2008, 07:51 PM
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I would like to couple one of those bad boys into my engine bay:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45416
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We've got a Honda EV 3000 with well over 15,000 hours on it and runs like the day it was made. Only repair we've ever done was replace the throttle servo. Those things are crazy quiet!
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:30 PM
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I would like to couple one of those bad boys into my engine bay:

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=45416
The real question would be how you get your engine to stay at a steady 3600rpm since 616/617's have no governor. You'd need a MB diesel from a reefer unit or something.....or a gasser engine......or design and implement a good governing system for the 617.

Not to mention running the engine in your car at 3600rpm for hours in an outage would take a significant amount of fuel and would put a lot of wear on the engine.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:47 PM
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The real question would be how you get your engine to stay at a steady 3600rpm since 616/617's have no governor. You'd need a MB diesel from a reefer unit or something.....or a gasser engine......or design and implement a good governing system for the 617.

Not to mention running the engine in your car at 3600rpm for hours in an outage would take a significant amount of fuel and would put a lot of wear on the engine.
With a direct drive system......yes, but with just a little bit of overdrive/underdrive pulleying you could turn the engine at idle and the generator at 3600rpm.
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:50 PM
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With a direct drive system......yes, but with just a little bit of overdrive/underdrive pulleying you could turn the engine at idle and the generator at 3600rpm.
The only real problem there is that it would stall the engine, as it doesn't put out 20hp at idle......not to mention it doesn't get optimal oil pressure and lubrication at those speeds to be run that way for a prolonged time, especially under a significant load....and it'd get a lot of soot and carbon buildup too.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:08 AM
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The only real problem there is that it would stall the engine, as it doesn't put out 20hp at idle......not to mention it doesn't get optimal oil pressure and lubrication at those speeds to be run that way for a prolonged time, especially under a significant load....and it'd get a lot of soot and carbon buildup too.
Keep in mind that it won't always pull 20hp, the draw will be dependent on load, your not always going to need to pull that 20hp.

But like you said before, if you could rig a governer you could find a happy medium.

no doubt it would take a little work, heck getting a pulley setup that would attache to your engine would be a small engineering task.
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Old 06-08-2008, 01:43 AM
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Well, for the house, I have a 5k Generac that I bought used off Craigslist for $350 when the owner upgraded. Has either a Briggs or a Tecumseh engine (can't remember which). Not nearly as quiet as a Honda, but for about half the price of a Honda - or less I can live with it.

For camping I have a little 1500 watt that I bought at Schucks for about $30 more than that you'd pay for that little 1050 watt hat HF. I bought a bandsaw at HF because they assured me that I could always get parts. YEAH RIGHT!. When the rubber "tire" on the drive wheel got chewed up it too 4 months and reordering it 3 times to ever get it. They kept telling me it was "backordered" and then a month later cancelling the order because they couldn't fill it.

At least with the one I bought at Schucks, I can go to the STORE to get parts instead of having ot order them over the internet and be jerked around like with HF. And it is surprisingly quiet too. Not Honda quiet, but not annoyingly loud inside the camper either.
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Old 06-08-2008, 12:28 PM
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Well, for the house, I have a 5k Generac that I bought used off Craigslist for $350 when the owner upgraded. Has either a Briggs or a Tecumseh engine (can't remember which). Not nearly as quiet as a Honda, but for about half the price of a Honda - or less I can live with it.
A Honda Generator is somewhere in the $1700.00 range for a 5K. So you are about 1/4 the cost of a Honda. We looked at a Honda Genset last year for camping and decided to just go where there is power. Also, don't forget about Yamaha, they make a generator that rivals the Honda. Same power output and the same quiet running. Same $$$$$ too!

Our power went out yesterday.............oops, no generator. It came back on 10 minutes later.

Now we just need to go out and MAN THE ARK!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 06-09-2008, 09:46 AM
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This is a timely topic for me. I just bought a Kohler natural gas generator off of Craigslist last week for my country house. It is a 3.5 KW model, most likely produced in the 70's and it has an Onan automatic switch. There is only 180 hours on it and if it runs nearly as well as my old Cub Cadet Kohler, I'm set for some time. The best part about it is that I have a gas well on the property, so I'll be saving money when the power goes out.

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Old 06-09-2008, 05:11 PM
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I just bought one of these:

John Deere 6,200 Watt

It runs my well and a bunch of lights without complaint.

I'm installing a proper switchover so I don't have to worry about random wires getting electrified.
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Old 06-09-2008, 05:59 PM
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A little Breaks&Scrappem powered generator like that is as much as most people need. Most backup gensets die of old age, mice, rust, ... few are worn out in residential backup use.
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:26 PM
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That thing will be louder than hell. I would just buy a Honda generator. Then you would be set for life.
Some comments on generators. Last year I bought a cheapie 2200 watt unit at Big Lots to keep at the house in Virginia Beach. It uses a Chinese knock-off of an OHV Honda engine with a vey large muffler, and it's very quiet. I've only used mine once and had no problems, but I have read some anecdotes about these concerning hardware failures - muffler brackets breaking, etc...
An acquaintance bought a similar 3500 watt unit from Pep Boys a few years ago and needed a fuel filter fitting. He was unable to contact anyone at the 800 number and wound up fabricating the broken piece himself. Since then he's been using it with his travel-trailer without further problems.
FWIW, I was actually able to get someone on the phone with the generator's 800 number BEFORE I bought my unit.

Here in Alexandria, I have an ancient 3000 watt Tecumseh-powered Homelite generator that I last used after Hurricane Isabel in '03. It's a very heavy jobsite type unit with a small tank, small muffler, and it's very noisy! But it will power my fridge. Unfortunately, if it's not used for awhile, I might need to pop the flywheel and buff the points, or drop the carb bowl and clean the jets, like I had to do the morning after Isabel. but once I got it running it was very reliable - and noisy!

I also got one of those tiny 1200 watt Chinese units at Pep Boys for use with power tools. It's very quiet too, but it wasn't able to get my fridge going after the power outage here last week. After my power was restored next day, I realized that I had the fridge's 'mosture control' anti-condensate setting switched on, which powers an extra heating element in the fridge cabinet, so I don't know if the lttle generator might have worked had I switched the fridge to the 'economy' setting. I'll test it again next power outage.

No personal experience with Honda generators, though recently I salvaged a really nice, fixer-upper Honda mower with Honda's commercial engine. But the smallest Honda generators cost about as much as a 4000 - 5000 watt Coleman or Generac!

By the way, I saw that same $162 Harbour Freight generator at Big Lots today.

Happy Motoring, Mark

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