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i-osprey 06-24-2008 11:51 PM

Battery Keeps Going Dry????
 
I have a 1981 300D and I put a (high) maintenance battery on it about a year ago. It is the proper battery for the car and has given me no trouble until the last two weeks.

About two weeks ago in the course of a day it stopped holding a charge. After two boosts I took off the covers and it was BONE dry.

I got some distilled water and filled it up and it held a charge beautifully for about two weeks. It started the same thing today. I take off the caps and sure enough it is dry again.

My question is what would cause my battery to go dry?

I will say that I beat on the post a bit the day it first stopped holding a charge when I was tightening the clamp and I have put the post under a bit of strain in the past when trying to get a ground wire on it.

Besides a crack in the battery itself, how could the water be gone that fast?

Could my alternator be "boiling" off the water?

I'm stumped.

It looks like the water has come out from the caps based upon the debris around the area that apparently stuck to it when it was wet. Also, there is a hole eaten through the battery tray and into the fender well.

I suspect that this has been there a while but I don't know for sure.

compress ignite 06-24-2008 11:57 PM

Multimeter on battery posts engine "On"
 
Will tell you if voltage is off.
Advance ,Kragens,Autozone will test it running for you

i-osprey 06-25-2008 12:09 AM

I've got a meter I can put on it but I don't know how that would cook it off.

Jimmy Joe 06-25-2008 12:17 AM

You certainly can be boiling off the water (if the case is not cracked. )
Your voltage reg might be shot, cheap fix, but it will kill batteries.

When mine was boiling the battery, I could smell it.

i-osprey 06-25-2008 12:34 AM

I've got a meter I can put on it but I don't know how that would cook it off.

Diesel911 06-25-2008 12:40 AM

Over charging can boil off the water. Either the charging voltage is too high (on American cars over 14.50 volts too much). Another possible is that the charging voltage is OK but when your battery is fully charged the regulator is not stopping it from charging.
My understanding of batterys are that each cell is separate from the other cells; so if you had a leak it would be unlikely that all of the cells would be dry. Also If a cell leaked out several times and you replaced it with water soon there would not be enough acid left in the cell and your batter would be no good.
I could not find the Max voltage in the factory manual but in the Mitchelle manual it said the output should be 13.7 to 14.5 volts.

i-osprey 06-25-2008 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Joe (Post 1893113)
You certainly can be boiling off the water (if the case is not cracked. )
Your voltage reg might be shot, cheap fix, but it will kill batteries.

When mine was boiling the battery, I could smell it.

Now that you mention it I can smell mine too.

Almost a sulfur-y smell at times.

I have an extra regulator in my car but I just bought the alternator about a year ago.

i-osprey 06-25-2008 12:47 AM

It never gets over 14.00.

I revved it up and it always stopped at 14.00 like clockwork.

At first it was 13.44 and then slowly rose to 14.00.

tangofox007 06-25-2008 12:49 AM

It's time for a new battery. "Boiling" is typical for a battery that won't take or hold a charge.

i-osprey 06-25-2008 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tangofox007 (Post 1893139)
It's time for a new battery. "Boiling" is typical for a battery that won't take or hold a charge.

Well, it's a seven year battery that is a year old.

It will hold a charge if there is water/acid in it.

Diesel911 06-25-2008 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i-osprey (Post 1893144)
Well, it's a seven year battery that is a year old.

It will hold a charge if there is water/acid in it.

Take the fully charged battery to a parts place that will put a load test on it for free and you will know for sure. I think we have all had even new parts go bad. This will eliminate the battery as a cause.
If the Alternator is off take that too and have them test it.

tangofox007 06-25-2008 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i-osprey (Post 1893144)
Well, it's a seven year battery that is a year old.

http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/lifemap.jpg

The probablilty that a battery will last 7 years in a hot climate is close to zero. 2-3 years is typical. Failure after one year is hardly unusual.

i-osprey 06-25-2008 08:08 AM

I'll see if Autozone will give me a new one.

Thanks for the help everybody.

babymog 06-25-2008 08:48 AM

They smell like cooking tomatoes

i-osprey 06-25-2008 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by babymog (Post 1893269)
They smell like cooking tomatoes

What does that smell like?

I also could have confused the smells my farty dog makes for the battery smell.:o

i-osprey 06-27-2008 01:52 AM

I thought I would add something else that happened recently to the equation.

About a month ago one of my hi-beams popped when I engaged them. The next night at the same time the other one popped. I got a blue flash and then no hi-beams.

Low beams work fine but when I turn on the brights I have NO lights.

Would this be a voltage regulator problem?
Especially when you consider that my battery is cooking off?

Could the regulator be occasionally failing even though I could not get it to go above 14 when I tested it?

Cervan 06-27-2008 03:12 AM

Sounds like overcharging. causing your fuses to pop. (Or your headlights to pop)

i-osprey 06-27-2008 03:54 PM

When I bought the alternator a year ago at Autozone the first one didn't charge at all.

Now this one had a different voltage regulator on it and worked for about a year before it apparently has ruined the battery.

I had a back-up regulator in the glove box so I put it on this morning, when the battery was dead again but with water still in it....

I measured the output and it was less than the other one. It never got above 13.5.

I'll drive it a bit today and see what happens.

Diesel911 06-27-2008 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by i-osprey (Post 1895619)
When I bought the alternator a year ago at Autozone the first one didn't charge at all.

Now this one had a different voltage regulator on it and worked for about a year before it apparently has ruined the battery.

I had a back-up regulator in the glove box so I put it on this morning, when the battery was dead again but with water still in it....

I measured the output and it was less than the other one. It never got above 13.5.

I'll drive it a bit today and see what happens.


13.5 is within the allowable/correct charging voltage range.

i-osprey 06-28-2008 11:40 AM

It also seems to work much better. It was bought specifically for the car.

I think that the alternator I got was for several different vehicles.

I also seem to notice that my lights are brighter????

The battery also is holding a charge so far. I will see in a minute if it held one over night.


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