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Old 06-29-2008, 11:52 PM
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Maybe the timing-belt is a cake-walk on a '91 Jetta, but try dong one on a V6 Toyota-Lexus, Honda-Acura, or Misubishi-Chrysler engine!
Many manufacturers of timing-chain engines don't even specify a replacement interval, and I've never had to replace a timing chain in any of the inline engined vehicles I've owned. Also, both Toyota and Honda, like my Nissan, have reverted to timin-chains, at least on their fours.

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Old 06-30-2008, 09:57 AM
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Maybe the timing-belt is a cake-walk on a '91 Jetta, but try dong one on a V6 Toyota-Lexus, Honda-Acura, or Misubishi-Chrysler engine!
Many manufacturers of timing-chain engines don't even specify a replacement interval, and I've never had to replace a timing chain in any of the inline engined vehicles I've owned. Also, both Toyota and Honda, like my Nissan, have reverted to timin-chains, at least on their fours.

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Yup! And the V6 Audi diesels--Its a Three Day Job! Whole front of car needs to come off--and That aint easy!--Been there, Done that--'Orrible bloody thing!

Belts have advantages, Cheap, quiet easily implemented by makers-- but fail without warning and should ALWAYS be replaced at the three years of age REGARDLESS of mileage...

Personally I would never trust ANY belt to last 100K miles. Seen just SO many broken belts over the years, and on diesels, this can total the engine! Most vehicles in Europe have belts these days, Not many are chain or gear driven anymore
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I have driven a 524td when it was new and I would not say it was much if any faster than a 300dt.

I had a couple of bmws and rate their quality significantly less than mercedes.

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I also like to 70s to early 80s bmw models (nothing since then), but I won't own anything with a timing belt either. I would be more concerned with parts availability, longevity, etc. compared to the benz.
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Old 06-30-2008, 10:57 AM
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I . . . Side note: Did you know that you could opt for a BMW diesel engine in an '80s Lincoln Continental?
Really? I never heard that. How comon are those? Any idea?
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Old 06-30-2008, 11:47 AM
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Really? I never heard that. How comon are those? Any idea?
They're not common at all. Every once in a while you see one pop up though. Those cars came loaded with lots of high quality 80's American electronics like auto climate control, rear air suspension...

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Really? I never heard that. How common are those? Any idea?
They made about 200-500 of them.
http://www.thelincolnmarkviiclub.org/specifications/1984/turbodiesel/1984TurbodieselSpecifications.pdf

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Yup! And the V6 Audi diesels--Its a Three Day Job! Whole front of car needs to come off--and That aint easy!--Been there, Done that--'Orrible bloody thing!
Wanna change their V6 timing chains?
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I thought this discussion would be about the new BMW diesels that are coming this fall. From the specs I've seen they will outperform what MB currently has for sale in this country.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/01/03/detroit-08-preview-bmw-does-diesel-will-show-us-specx5-xdrive/
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:13 PM
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Its nice except for the overcomplicated and restrictive twin turbo part.
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Old 06-30-2008, 04:23 PM
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Its nice except for the overcomplicated and restrictive twin turbo part.
Anything new than 1985 is overcomplicated.
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anything New Than 1985 Is Overcomplicated.
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Not for me, the 61x is the latest engine I'm interested in owning; I don't even want to think about the new ones.
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Not for me, the 61x is the latest engine I'm interested in owning; I don't even want to think about the new ones.
If a 603 is simple enough that I feel reasonably comfortable around it, then you can handle it
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If a 603 is simple enough that I feel reasonably comfortable around it, then you can handle it
I can probably handle it, I just don't like any more complex than absolutely necessary. I'm a strong believer in the KISS principle; one of the reasons I prefer diesels to gassers and prefer older cars to newer cars.
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If a 603 is simple enough that I feel reasonably comfortable around it, then you can handle it

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