The data mplafleur posted, and this graph from NOAA:


X axis is Thousands of years before present, Y axis is change in temp (C)

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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine

Scores of Peer-Reviewed Studies Contradict Global Warming Alarmism

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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine

This does not contradict the man-made global warming theory at all. If it does, that's like saying forest fires have always existed, even long before humans came about, so humans can't possibly be causing any fires.

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Well then man must be causing global cooling. Take a look at the very end of the graph...

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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine

Until I get a straight answer to what's caused the warming of the last 30-40 years, with some evidence, I have no reason to change my mind.

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I will not repeat to you what I already said just so you don't have to read the whole thread. If you don't want to read all my posts in this thread, please don't respond to me.

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If you want to just offhandedly reject any data that does not support your hypothesis then stop responding to this thread period.

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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine

I have yet to see such data and I would like to as a matter of fact.

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But please before you go on Google and flood me with a bunch of links to "denier" websites, what I meant in my last post is tell me in your own words how I'm wrong, then provide some documentation, preferably in the form of graphs like I did.

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RichC/240Joe/DieselAddict, there is no possible way anyone will change your mind because your mind is set.

You said it right before, arguing (for) man-made global warming is like arguing the Earth is flat. People that "know" the "truth" cannot be swayed from their position no matter how much data is thrown at them that clearly disproves their ideas. Did you know there are still people that truly believe the Earth is flat and less than 6,000 years old?

You are wasting everyone's time by suggesting that you might possibly change your mind after being shown the data. You, I and everyone else knows that will never happen. You'll make up some quick excuse as to why it is wrong, does not apply, proves nothing at all or proves your theory instead and brush it off to the side like you never saw it and demand more proof.

Tell that to the climate change terrorists. They are all fixated on one thing, CO2, as being the cause of it. Look at any site pushing GW and you will see "carbon" and "CO2" far more frequently than anything else.

Historical data shows that the global temperature is not higher than it has ever been. The time that has passed since the industrial revolution is such a minor blip in the history of the earth that it is impossible to tell if man is having any effect on the climate. The slight warming we have seen in the past few decades so far is just "noise" in the long term global temperature trend.

I have already provided documentation in the form of a graph above in post 136.

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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine

You're talking about yourself. What have you offered to counter the evidence that I presented? Nothing but blanket denials. It's difficult to have an intelligent discussion on this topic because it quickly gets heated for no good reason. As I said I'd like to see some meaningful counter-evidence to the man-made global warming theory. I have yet to see any, but it would make my day, knowing that humans are not as destructive to the environment as I think they are. I'd also feel less guilty about my own emissions. So again, I invite you to present some counter-evidence. The fact that the climate has always been changing is not by itself any evidence and I've known that since long ago.

What is "it"? Again, it depends on what we're talking about. Is it the warming of the last 30 years or the cooling during the little ice age in the 1600's for example? And what's with the "terrorist" label? That's just lame.

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So what's causing this so-called noise?

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Impossible to say, but similar noise has been happening long before humans were around.

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1979 240D- 316K miles - VGT Turbo, Intercooler, Stick Shift, Many Other Mods - Daily Driver

1982 300SD - 232K miles - Wife's Daily Driver

1986 560SL - Wife's red speed machine

So are you saying there's no evidence man-made CO2 is contributing to the warming, even during the last 30 years?

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