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Old 07-24-2008, 03:16 PM
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Ramps or Jackstands

I'm new to MBnz and this whole unibody thing freaks me out. I have jackstands and access to a floorjack, but would just feel more comfortable with it on ramps. Plus I think I would get more working room. What do yall think? TIA, Alex
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:29 PM
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On an MB without SLS I think you'll be better off with jack stands and a good floor jack. If you have SLS, ramps in addition to the stands are good since you need to have the rear suspension compressed to test and adjust it.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:35 PM
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It depends on what you are doing but if at all possable I use ramps. I only use jack stands when I need to have a wheel off for something. Cars were designed to be on their tires and this is where they are the most stable so I go with that in mind.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:51 PM
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Ramps!

I 2nd what Phil said. I've had a couple of scary incidents with jackstands. The base on them isn't really wide enough, and they can start tilting on you and fall right over on their side if the body shifts laterally. I use big SUV jackstands and I still don't feel all that safe under them.
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Old 07-24-2008, 03:57 PM
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If I'm working under the car, I find that ramps take up too much space. I much prefer stands. One of these days, I'll have a lift.
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:03 PM
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If I'm working under the car, I find that ramps take up too much space. I much prefer stands. One of these days, I'll have a lift.
That's what I think too. I just make sure I hip check the car before I get under it.
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:09 PM
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We don't even own ramps. I never service the car when the tires don't come off anyway, almost... I mean, we don't change starters and transmissions THAT often... and if the tires come off at every oil change anyway, it's hardly worth the trouble of getting ramps. I just use jacks and stands and ensure that things are safe enough before I ever go under, if I have to go under.
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Old 07-24-2008, 04:25 PM
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Either, depends on the task at hand....however, when using jack stands I'll put some wood piled under the wheels, and a couple extra stands in strategic places to keep me from being crushed if there was an issue.
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I once knew an Anglican minister who dropped a Pontiac Parisienne on his head when his hydraulic jack failed. I've had a soft spot in my heart for redundancy ever since then even though he seemed none the worse for wear.
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Old 07-24-2008, 05:16 PM
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Me likey redundancy 6 to 12 ton jack stands are awesome, if you are on level concrete. on gravel or dirt, or non level surfaces... I don't like to lift the car.
ramps have their value, but I prefer a set of wheel chocks, a good floor jack and jack stands.
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:23 PM
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I nearly killed myself once with ramps!

Give me a good jackstand (at least 2 actually) on a decent level concrete floor any day.

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Old 07-24-2008, 07:28 PM
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i use ramps unless i am going to remove a wheel
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Old 07-24-2008, 07:37 PM
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Ramps unless I am taking a wheel off. Even on ramps though, I still keep a jack in a place where it is very close to holding up the car (ie: if the ramps would fail for whatever reason), and usually jackstands placed similarly as well... though I did once forget to move a jackstand I had strategically placed, and I backed off the ramp... ooops, luckily nothing critical was in the path and the jackstand just fell over.

Driving onto and off of ramps has its own risks as well, mostly to the car.

I've thought before that solid wood ramps would be a good idea - very strong and stable.

In general, I am pretty cautious about working under a car. I'm not into the whole being crushed by my car thing.
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Old 07-24-2008, 08:29 PM
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Ramps whenever the wheels are staying on, I try to use an extra jack to hold the car in case one of the ramps shatter. I don't like getting under the car at all, ramps or otherwise.
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Some times I use ramps, and some times I use jack stands, depends what Iam doing.

I have some large rubber wheel chocks I use.

If I use jack stands, I use a hydraulic floor jack on each side as a back up.
On my asphalt driveway I use a 3/4in piece of plywood under the jack stands. they can sink into the asphalt.

Here in Calif. I always think, what if we had an earthquake? HMMM even if a car is up on a lift I always wonder.

You guys in the mid west only have to worry about a big wind sucking your car off you and placing it into the next county

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