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Clogged trap cataylist symptoms
Last night I parked my 85 300SD with no problems. When I went to start it this morning i didnt crank it long enough and she started but died shortly there after. Since then I have not been able to get her started. I primed the pump and I could feel fuel rushing through the pump. I recently replaced all of the glow plugs with bocsh. She has high cranking rpm and a charged battery. I replaced the starter two months ago with a bosch rebuild. I was having problems with this before the starter went out and after replaceing it I thought that I had fixed the problem. Acording to mercedes dealership the trap oxidizer was replaced in 97 with 100,000 less miles on it then she does today. What are symptoms of a clogged trap cat? She idles realy good and up until yesterday had power accelerating. If it wern't for the fact that she idles good, i would check the valves but I have no reason to suspect that. After the trap cat is replaced has anyone ever heard of them clogging up again? When I crank her she puffs out a thick "dry" soot. I also do alot of town driving...barley enough time for the car to warm up...but I have only put a thousand or so miles on her since I got it.
-Stephen
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I have not heard of clogging problems with a trap catalyst on an OM617 but it could happen if a car were driven extensively at low speeds, much idling in traffic, etc., and never given the opportunity to burn off the collected soot. There is a factory procedure for measuring the back pressure using a pressure gauge connected to a port at the rear end of the exhaust manifold, just before the trap cat. I don't remember the spec -- the book isn't in front of me -- but an excessive back pressure indicates a clogged trap.
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I recall...
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-Stephen
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I have not heard that, but it is possible. The pressure test is the key. FSM says 1.3 bar is the limit (about 19 psi). More than that = clogged trap cat.
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"Buster" in the '95 Our all-Diesel family 1996 E300D (W210) . .338,000 miles Wife's car 2005 E320 CDI . . 113,000 miles My car Santa Rosa population 176,762 (2022) Total. . . . . . . . . . . . 627,762 "Oh lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz." -- Janis Joplin, October 1, 1970 |
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Make sure that the shut off valve is not stuck. Unplug the vacuum line to it and try again.
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i never thought of that...does this happen often? how do I replace it if it is the culprit?
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68 250s SOLD 78 300d non turbo SOLD 1980 240d manual SOLD 1981 300SD 360,000 miles I think she's doomed for a parts car but has a good engine SOLD the engine to spamman 1977 300d non turbo SOLD 1985 300SD california car 1978 240D Manual |
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I got it started
I got it started but was unable to test to see if it was the fuel cutt off valve. After it started it had a big cloud of grey smoke. It didn't smell like diesel though. It smelled very chemicaly if that makes sence. Has anyone experienced this before? thanks, stephen
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68 250s SOLD 78 300d non turbo SOLD 1980 240d manual SOLD 1981 300SD 360,000 miles I think she's doomed for a parts car but has a good engine SOLD the engine to spamman 1977 300d non turbo SOLD 1985 300SD california car 1978 240D Manual |
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