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this pictorial might help
here a write up I did - it might help....
Write up - Ball Joints & Lower Control Arm Bushings & Tool Review (PICS!)
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from this post dated to '02
"p/n lower control arm joint boot repair kit A116 586 04 33 upper A116 586 05 33 factory list is 9.25 & 7.00 respectively. Wholesale is 7.50 and 5.75. " I was qouted aprox $23/ea @ my dealership this spring, same PN. i ordered lemforder joints for $27/ea
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This is how I removed the Lower Ball Joint from the LCA as the local Auto Zone had no Ball Joint Separator for rent. Also I did not remove the Upper Control Arm and left it hang on the Steering Knuckle.
Back the Lower Ball Joint nut out so that about 1/4 inch of threads are exposed (you are going to need a new self locking nut if you do it this way). How I supported the LCA. If is still will not come out wrap the Lower Ball Joint in at least 4 layers of Aluminum foil to prevent the heat from burning the Boot. Point the flame away from the Ball Joint and heat the arm in the area approximately where the Jack is touching in the picture. Let the heat conduct to the Ball Joint on its own and keep the flame away from the Ball Joint area.
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Just as well. A press would be an incredibly poor substitute for a separator.
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By the way I did this today and the replacment LCA and other parts are back where they are supposed to be. Will finish up tomarrow. I am waiting for my Caster/Camber Gauge to arrive and will attempt to align it myself.
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123 Lower Ball Joint Replacement
A proper picture's worth a 1000 words.
Although hoping for, I didn't think the UCA could come out that way. (while still hooked to the spindle) Great shot......Thanks
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It will, but it's about three times easier to separate the guide joint.
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Even with that plate I found it tore up the UCA Boot (and a Pickle Fork is guaranteed to tear the Boot). If you notice in my pic the UCA is brand new and I had no interest in trying to separate it and damaging the boot so I left it on the Steering Knuckle. In the future I hope I have better tools to do the job; but for now I try to use what I have available.
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Please excuse my short responses. I have limited wireless where I'm at.
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For what it's worth, I agree complete with #12 above that the correct way to take apart a ball joint is by opposed hammers. Much quicker and less damage than with pickle forks.
The only comment I'd add is that you're using two hammers, one as a hammer, the other as a dolly. The dolly should be held firmly against the back side of the ball joint before you hammer the front. If you're doing it right, the dolly will "buck" away when the hammer strikes. My advice is to use a dolly that weights twice as much as the hammer. More energy is contained in the part being hammered. This system works based on the elasticity of the steel parts, and is really very elegant. If you have any doubts, try it on a wreck first. SEO |
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Does this mean you could change LCA bushings with this method? Seems like you have loosened the spring..
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in that pic it looks like the spring is compressed up into the body.
so, no- you still need to compress the spring to do LCA bushings.
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I had a lower ball (support) joint replaced at a local indy shop, they did it without removing the spindle.
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I do not see how someone can get buy without compressing the spring when removing the LCA. Compressing the spring is a homemade Sprig Compressor; 1"-14 threaded rod and 2 plates with holes in the center, several 1" inch washers to act as spacers and 2 1"-14 nuts. The 1" threaded rod may be thicker than is needed but I have another project I need the unused thread rod for.
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