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Old 10-01-2008, 05:20 PM
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IP shutoff valve

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My car is 1985 300D Turbo

Recently when turning off the ignition switch, it takes about 10-15 seconds for the car to shut down.

By inspecting the vacuum hose of the shutoff valve behind the IP, I noticed the rubber tubing was worn out (fattened out?). So I replaced a new section of the rubber vacuum hose. Now the car can shut off right away.

However, the old section of the hose has some oil in it, is that something I have to worry about.

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Old 10-01-2008, 05:43 PM
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Yes. It's indicative of a tear in the shut off diaphragm. Could be residual oil from a tear in a previous diaphragm if your current diaphragm seems to be functioning fine.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:44 PM
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So with presence of oil there, does that mean the shutoff valve will fail any moment from now?
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Old 10-01-2008, 11:07 PM
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No. And a bad shut off valve is not a major problem. You can just push the stop lever when it fails.
It's better not to have oil in your vacuum lines.
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IP Shut Off Valve Diaphragm

Ruptured Diaphragm allows Vacuum pump to pull Lubricating Oil up to the Vacuum portion of the Ignition Switch and Beyond...Put a Mighty Vac directly
on the shut off valve nipple...Does the Shut Off Valve hold a Vacuum? If not
replace it.
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:55 AM
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I had oil in my line, I replaced the shut off valve, and now the car stops with the key.
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Old 10-02-2008, 06:15 AM
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Yes, replace the shutoff actuator. It takes 30 minutes, and you need two part number 001 074 20 80 gaskets.
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:56 AM
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Ruptured Diaphragm allows Vacuum pump to pull Lubricating Oil up to the Vacuum portion of the Ignition Switch and Beyond...
I had a question about this because I just found that my shutoff actuator doesn't hold a vacuum. Shouldn't it only suck oil through the lines when the key is in the off position? If that's the case, wouldn't it only draw oil from the IP for a few moments while the engine is shutting down? After the vacuum pump stops pumping, there's no residual vacuum in those lines...is that incorrect? Also, someone mentioned that the brake booster can fill up with oil...how does it get in there? Shouldn't it flow towards the vacuum pump when it hits the main vacuum line?
Really just curiosity questions...won't reallly solve anything
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:00 AM
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Brake fluid can leak into the booster due to a failed seal on the MC shaft.
If you are "missing" fluid, and can't otherwise locate a leak, check there.
You can unbolt the MC from the booster easily.
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I had a question about this because I just found that my shutoff actuator doesn't hold a vacuum. Shouldn't it only suck oil through the lines when the key is in the off position? If that's the case, wouldn't it only draw oil from the IP for a few moments while the engine is shutting down? After the vacuum pump stops pumping, there's no residual vacuum in those lines...is that incorrect? Also, someone mentioned that the brake booster can fill up with oil...how does it get in there? Shouldn't it flow towards the vacuum pump when it hits the main vacuum line?
Really just curiosity questions...won't reallly solve anything
As far as the brake booster. That can fill with brake fluid from a leaking master cylinder. That brake fluid can end up in the engine oil if left to collect too high in the booster. I've never heard of the engine oil backtracking the vacuum line and ending up in the booster.
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Geez...I thought for sure I had just read a thread (looking into shutoff valves) where someone had said that they saw oil drip ontheir leg and it came from the ignition switch and someone else mentioned it getting into the MC. I thought it sounded strange, now I can't find it...of courese.

Well, its not worth getting the thread off course...but I can see that if the shutoff valve is bad that the engine will run for longer until it shuts off, all the while the oil is working its way up the brown vacuum line.

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