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Abadjay 10-01-2008 09:07 PM

Coasting with the car on neutral
 
Is there any damage that can be done (Long OR Short term) from frequently putting any car with Automatic Transmission into neutral to coast to a stop (and somehow get better MPG)?

I've done this once on a freeway that went downhill, but now I'm getting worried that I could be damaging the transmission at the expense of MPG.

pawoSD 10-01-2008 09:24 PM

You won't really get any better mpg by doing that. If you're coasting downhill and the engine is at 2000rpm, it will not be using any more fuel than if it was at 700rpm....the fuel rack in the IP dictates the fuel used, and if you're not on the throttle, then the engine isn't using any more than an idle-amount of fuel. So essentially its pointless to do that....

babymog 10-01-2008 09:46 PM

It will actually use more fuel.

If the engine is idling it is burning fuel.

If instead, the engine is trying to idle, but the RPM is above idle, the rack will close to the minimum fuel position which is less than the idle flow.

However, it will do no damage to coast in neutral with the engine idling.

pawoSD 10-01-2008 10:04 PM

Huh, I didn't know the rack could close even more than idle. You learn something new every day. :D

ds190 10-01-2008 10:30 PM

but his question was.....
 
So, aside from that, how about the answer to his question??

His second question- will the transmission be damaged by engaging it at highway speeds while the engine is idling?

What does the oracle say about that?

ForcedInduction 10-01-2008 10:41 PM

No.

Its better to keep it in gear. In neutral everything is spinning at different speeds and wearing. In gear its locked into one ratio so only one gear set is moving.

Abadjay 10-02-2008 12:18 AM

Good one! I was actually looking for that answer!

babymog 10-02-2008 09:23 AM

The OP mentioned coasting to a stop and putting it in gear, fine. Putting it back in gear at highway speeds should IMO be avoided.

Pooka 10-02-2008 02:34 PM

Coasting in nuteral
 
This is illigal in some states as it tends to damage cat converters due to consant cooling and heating cycles.

I know; the temp difference is very slight, but over the long run every bit of wear adds up.

Plus the price of Mercedes cats is not cheap.

Pooka

Pooka 10-02-2008 02:36 PM

oops!
 
Sorry, forgot I was on the Diesel forum. Old age, you know.

Pooka

blackestate 10-02-2008 03:51 PM

Still illigal in some states. classified as "control of vehicle" or something like that...

I have done it before, on some of the stoplights I have are a 60mph to stop. That is a lot of coasting at idle. I did see a slight MPG gain over 2 tanks. But not worth it to me.

blindwolf 10-02-2008 04:52 PM

I would be concerned about how well the secondary fluid pump on the tranny would be circulating the tranny fluid, keeping pressure and cooling at an optimum level.

babymog 10-02-2008 04:55 PM

If the engine is idling, it'll be fine. I've towed cars with the engine idling in neutral for long distances.


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