Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-07-2008, 09:06 PM
nickofoxford's Avatar
2 doors, 5 cylinders
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: S.E. PA
Posts: 447
Shivering 240D

Hey guys. My '80 240D runs COLD! I can pretty much assume my thermostat is stuck wide open. I drove for 2 hours tonight and the temperature gauge didn't move at all. I had some heat, but the engine stayed cold. My temp gauge does in fact work, but driving at night when it is as cold as it was tonight she just will not warm up.

So, new thermostat should clear that one up? I've never done this anyone got some neat tips and tricks?

Another thing.. The radiator fan is always engaged, so this could be the problem IF the thing is supposed to shut off until the engine is warm enough. If it is temperature controlled what should I do to get it back into spec?


So what do you think, fan clutch or thermostat.. or any combination. I would like to get my fuel economy back I've heard cold diesels don't quite "sip". I miss that almost instant hair drier like heat at night too.

Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-07-2008, 09:15 PM
fruitcakesa's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Vermont
Posts: 1,143
My 82 had similar issues and a new t-stat fixed up all no heat problems.
Simple repair, just remove enough coolant from the bottom rad drain to below the t-stat level then pull off the housing and replace
__________________
1981 240D 143k 4 spd manual -SOLD

2004 VW Jetta TDI 5 speed 300k -still driven daily
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-07-2008, 09:49 PM
coonerboy's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Herkimer, NY
Posts: 191
I believe 240's dont have fan clutches.
__________________
'83 300D 198,000mi Howard
'03 Saturn Vue CVT 75,000mi(wifeys)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-07-2008, 09:55 PM
ForcedInduction
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by coonerboy View Post
I believe 240's dont have fan clutches.
Early ones don't.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-08-2008, 12:39 PM
curtludwig's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 263
Mine is an '83 and doesn't have a fan clutch either...

On the thermostat replacement just make sure the new one goes in the same way as the old one. I replaced the one in my 240D once and put it in backwards. You get very weird results, mostly overheating. I was very embarrassed to have my Indy write "removed, reversed, reinstalled" on the receipt...
__________________
Sadly Benz-less
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-08-2008, 07:00 PM
nickofoxford's Avatar
2 doors, 5 cylinders
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: S.E. PA
Posts: 447
Alright sounds good, checked it out today and yeah no fan clutch. That thing has to be majority of my engine noise going down the highway

Is there an aftermarket fan with more blades and a clutch, better yet is that even feasible? I was also thinking about going all electric and just taking the old fan out and putting some kind of monster electric fan on the front where the dead AC fan used to be. If that would have any decent thermal capacity I could wire that up for the AC and the engine temp no problem (when I get my AC to work, that is ) Any good threads on this?

I'll see if a thermostat fixes the problems. Can someone back me up that a cold engine gets sloppy mileage?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-08-2008, 09:24 PM
curtludwig's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 263
Quote:
Originally Posted by nickofoxford View Post
Alright sounds good, checked it out today and yeah no fan clutch. That thing has to be majority of my engine noise going down the highway

Is there an aftermarket fan with more blades and a clutch, better yet is that even feasible? I was also thinking about going all electric and just taking the old fan out and putting some kind of monster electric fan on the front where the dead AC fan used to be. If that would have any decent thermal capacity I could wire that up for the AC and the engine temp no problem (when I get my AC to work, that is ) Any good threads on this?

I'll see if a thermostat fixes the problems. Can someone back me up that a cold engine gets sloppy mileage?
There are those who say electric fans are great and those that say they're crap. Probably the easiest thing to do would be to fit a fan with clutch from a 300D...

I can back you up on mileage, all 3 of my MBs had bad thermostats and all say 20% or better increases with a good one fitted.
__________________
Sadly Benz-less
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-08-2008, 11:33 PM
Stevo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NW WA
Posts: 6,299
Quote:
Originally Posted by ForcedInduction View Post
Early ones don't.
None do, I think, my 85 doesn't.
__________________


1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-09-2008, 06:22 AM
t walgamuth's Avatar
dieselarchitect
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Lafayette Indiana
Posts: 38,627
Ive never seen one on a fwo forty.
__________________
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-09-2008, 12:10 PM
moon161's Avatar
Formerly of Car Hell
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Buffalo NY
Posts: 2,057
82 240D, no fan clutch.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 11-03-2008, 12:47 PM
nickofoxford's Avatar
2 doors, 5 cylinders
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: S.E. PA
Posts: 447
So, will a clutched fan bolt up? That would help out with the roar of my 240D hauling @$$ through the night Or will that just over complicate things?
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 11-03-2008, 01:31 PM
Stevo's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: NW WA
Posts: 6,299
I think if the MB engineers figured it would be a good thing they woulda put one on the 616.
__________________


1985 Euro 240D 5 spd 140K
1979 240D 5 spd, 40K on engine rebuild
1994 Dodge/Cummins, 5 spd, 121K
1964 Allice Chalmers D15 tractor
2014 Kubota L3800 tractor
1964 VW bug

"Lifes too short to drive a boring car"
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 11-05-2008, 10:31 PM
dieselnutnj's Avatar
CQ DE W2ICA
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Newton NJ
Posts: 163
replace the thermostat and crank up the tunes to drown out the noise hahaha. It's kept your engine from overheating for years and will continue to do so

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page