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Old 10-21-2008, 04:11 PM
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You are on my "list" for now Cecily! I have spent the last 2 days fighting brake caliper bleed nipples!
Coincidence? I think not.........



I haven't fixed the bleed screw yet, but did finally get around to breaking loose each lugnut one at a time with an impact wrench, and putting them back in with correct torque. At least now I'll be able to get the wheels off when needed. Right now it looks like I may not have another day off from work until Nov. 2, unless the Phillies sweep or get swept in the World Series ... so the suspense will have to go on as far as my caliper goes (overtime pay will come in handy though, if I do need new calipers).

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Old 10-21-2008, 06:25 PM
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I broke one off in my 1983 240D. Original calipers, plenty of miles and wear and tear as evidenced by the boots being pretty rough looking on the piston to caliper area, with some pretty heavy looking corrosion on the outer part of the pistons, heat shields disintegrated, etc. So, I elected to "splurge" for rebuilt units from my local European car parts outlet. I think they were something like $80 each.

So, if the car is a daily driver (my kids are still in college and still drive the car daily), and it still has 25 year old, or older calipers, it may be worth the added cost to put a rebuilt set in - nothing worse than a weekend fixing something on the brakes only to find out a month later another problem.....

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Old 10-21-2008, 09:08 PM
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Note that a new bleed screw is something like $7-$10 (each!) at the dealer, so try to snag one from a Pick-n-Pull if possible
Cecilly

There is a forum member here named "Hanno" who is parting out an 88 300E, I'm betting he could set you up with bleed screws and/or a used caliper if needed. He is located in Delaware and is a gentleman and a scholar - drop him a PM if you are looking for used parts.
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Old 10-21-2008, 09:42 PM
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now ya'll have got me scared to do my brake this weekend. What can i do to avoid breaking the bleeder screw off?

Should I use MB brake fluid?
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:12 PM
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Soak it good the day before or more, then put on a 10 mm IIRC box end and begin by just wiggleing it back and forth until you feel it give a little. If it does give, not soak it good and come back another day.

Careful removal methods will result in very rare breakage of a bleeder valve. I have not broken any in a long long time.
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Old 10-21-2008, 10:20 PM
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mwuhahaha... I just found a local source for aero-kroil... no broken bleeders for me!!!
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Old 10-22-2008, 12:32 AM
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Mine on the W123 were 8mm and I used a 6 point socket to brake it loose originally...
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A good penetrating oil as others have noted, left to soak into the crevice and first couple of threads will help. I use a box end wrench, and I believe the factory size is 9mm. I once wrote up a detailed procedure for this on a W123. But, once you break the bleed screw loose, I recommend a good anti-seize lube dabbed around the bleed screw between it and the caliper body before running the screw back into the caliper, then putting the rubber cap back on - keeps rust down, and keeps the road debris and water spray from washing away the anti-seize. Jim
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Old 10-23-2008, 08:19 AM
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i'll soak them in PB blater a day or so before I do the brakes.

Also I need to change the fluid, mine looks like motor oil right now. Should I use MB fluid from the dealer? Or what should I get from NAPA?
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Old 10-23-2008, 09:26 AM
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Also I need to change the fluid, mine looks like motor oil right now. Should I use MB fluid from the dealer? Or what should I get from NAPA?
No need to get brake fluid from the dealership. Officially, any DOT-4 fluid is acceptable. Personally, I recommend Valvoline SynPower brake fluid as the best bang for the buck (highest boiling points at the lowest cost). It should be available at most McParts for something like $6/quart.

The next step up is Ate SuperBlue (or Type 200 Gold), at twice the price... approx $12-$14/liter. Beyond that, there's Motul RBF600 at roughly $30/liter; but it's serious overkill unless you're on the racetrack with an E63 AMG or something...


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