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Turbotojo · #31 08-04-2009, 12:24 AM

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I am going to try to add a pfd fro CAT. Oddly the percentage of waste lube oil you can mix with the diesel changes several time in the article. also not the Filtration requirements. (If you do this it is at your own risk and read the complete article!)
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That's one of the papers I have come across. They probably just use straight waste oil without filtering. The oil I will use will basically be reprocessed. I'm not putting any garbage into my fuel system. It's really just the contaminates that are the problem and not the additives. ( I have never heard of additives to stop oil burning) Coolant is a big no no and cannot be removed but soot is easy to take out with a centrifuge.

#32 08-04-2009, 12:39 AM

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I am going to try to add a pfd fro CAT.

Very important note: "one time ratio of up to 5% oil to fuel can be burned"

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I'm not too worried about the legalities.

I don't care what YOU think of the legalities. You're hurting OUR environment and stealing taxes from maintaining OUR roads.

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The caterpillar paper I read said that you could mix up to 30%

Incorrect, read above.

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The oil is actually supposed to to end up cleaner than when bought after centrifuging.

That doesn't change the additive content.

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The bloke picking it up told be that they just filter it and run it in their trucks and they are a licensed company.

Key words there.

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There are also direct motor mount systems where oil is pumped straight out of the sump into the fuel tank as new oil is fed in.

That does it in extremely small ratios, not as a primary or even secondary fuel. Plus, those engines are registered with the EPA to be run with that system.

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Even with burning waste oil with diesel there would still be less harmful chemicals emitted than by a petrol motor.

Thats not an excuse to pollute.

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I just worry about the dollar signs at the moment.

Which is why people like you, burning illegal fuels, have no right to use the roads we pay to use. Wanting to "stick it to the man, thinking you've "already paid enough taxes" or think "they don't deserve my money" is fallacy (at best).

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I'm not putting any garbage into my fuel system.

Just a waste product your engine was never designed or registered to use.

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It's really just the contaminates that are the problem and not the additives.

That is false information.

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( I have never heard of additives to stop oil burning)

Then you haven't actually been doing any research, just looking for what you want to see to try and justify your actions.

Diesel911 · #33 08-04-2009, 12:49 PM

Well, keep us posted now and again.

Turbotojo · #34 08-04-2009, 06:36 PM

Don't get your knickers in a knot there Forcedinduction. I'm not in The US anyway so I won't be stealing from you as it is.
I see it it differently. As far as I know monies raised from registration and taxes here in Australia doesn't all go into the road network. In fact less than half does according to some current affairs shows here. So basically I am denying the politicians revenue of which a lot would have gone to them or been wasted anyway. I pay about $17000 a year in registration as it is and don't get any where near my money's worth.
I have done research and I am totally justified in my books. There is a lot more to it than just that. What about removing the EGR system from cars, I know a lot of people do it and that's illegal too isn't it? The only reason I am going to burn oil is to get rid of it anyway as the company that picks it up is only licensed to collect and recycle not burn it in their trucks. They save money by not recycling it and using it as fuel.

I might switch over to a charcoal burning motor next. I can make that at home.

Overall this is a very good system designed to be environmentally friendly with fewer oil changes down the track due to cleaner oil. Plus only petrol powered cars get pulled over for the exhaust pipe test where I live anyway.

I will open up the cleaner next oil change to see how much of the suspended particles have been removed from the oil. If it is anything like the one on my truck then it should be good. I will also send some oil in for testing so I can determine the proper oil change interval.

I love a good slanging match.
Stay tuned!

#35 08-04-2009, 08:13 PM

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I see it it differently.

Uh huh, thats always people's excuse.

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As far as I know monies raised from registration and taxes here in Australia doesn't all go into the road network. In fact less than half does according to some current affairs shows here. So basically I am denying the politicians revenue of which a lot would have gone to them or been wasted anyway. I pay about $17000 a year in registration as it is and don't get any where near my money's worth.

None of that justifies tax evasion and theft from your fellow citizens. If you don't like the tax laws then fight to have them changed. Not paying doesn't mean you're doing the right thing, it means you're a criminal in denial.

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Overall this is a very good system designed to be environmentally friendly with fewer oil changes down the track due to cleaner oil.

Incorrect. You're makeing an already dirty burning engine burn even dirtier by using a fuel it can't burn completely and wasn't designed to handle.

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Plus only petrol powered cars get pulled over for the exhaust pipe test where I live anyway.

Again, that is no excuse to make your car pollute even more!

Turbotojo · #36 08-04-2009, 11:24 PM

Yikes you must be hard up. What about people using water methanol injection or LPG.
There are no taxes on them like fuel excise that we have in Australia. So those people are buying the gas or water but are not paying fuel taxes. Are they stealing? My car also runs on air which is free. Maybe that should be taxed. If you think that the old Diesel motor is already dirty then get rid of it.
I did really start this thread purely out mechanical interest not as a debate about environmental protection.

Stay tuned and discover how good this device works.

pselaphid · #37 08-05-2009, 12:08 AM

I think we should declare a moratorium on arguing with Forced. Please.

Turbotojo · #38 08-05-2009, 12:21 AM

I am in agreement.

#39 08-05-2009, 03:41 AM

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Yikes you must be hard up.

I have no sympathy for thieves.

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What about people using water methanol injection

That is not a fuel.

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or LPG.

That is not the discussion.

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If you think that the old Diesel motor is already dirty then get rid of it.

You're making it much dirtier, big difference.

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Stay tuned and discover how good this device works.

We already know it will run on the oil, that much is very obvious. The problem is that its very harmful to the environment and the engine.

Turbotojo · #40 08-06-2009, 01:23 AM

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I have no sympathy for thieves.

That is not a fuel.

That is not the discussion.

You're making it much dirtier, big difference.

We already know it will run on the oil, that much is very obvious. The problem is that its very harmful to the environment and the engine.

You are way off the topic. Why don't you start another thread on reasons why we should not use alternative fuels such as WVO and other ways to save on the cost of fuel like LPG or MW injection? Maybe you could lobby governing bodies to increase all sorts of taxes. I'm trying to stretch out my oil change interval by keeping it cleaner for longer, Is that bad?
Goodnight from the Tojo.

Cervan · #41 08-06-2009, 01:41 AM

lol ive run out of fuel before, all i had was a gallon of rotella in the back. Threw that in the tank went on my merry way. Worked fine for me engine is still running great. I even took the injectors apart and checked them. No differences.. but that may be because i would redline that engine 24/7. Never burned any oil... that thing was awesome.

Turbotojo · #42 08-06-2009, 07:24 PM

Good to hear. You can run just about anything in these babies. I just have to do a mix test to see what liquids will mix with Diesel and which ones settle out on the bottom. Or to see how long they stay mixed. I might have to add some egg yokes to stop the mix from curdling.

compress ignite · #43 06-04-2010, 05:02 PM

TT,

What "Brand" did you get (AND how Much Did it cost?)

Thanks!

charmalu · #44 06-05-2010, 12:21 AM

Looks like his last activity was in January, might have to e-mail him.

Hope FI didn`t chase him away.

This thread was an interesting read.

Charlie

Turbotojo · #45 06-05-2010, 07:45 AM

I got mine from CBS energy in India. I bought a few and in different sizes. The one on my truck worked real good. The OM617 seems pretty clean. I checked the centrifuge at every oil change at 5000km and it's always clean except for a very fine film. I can't remeber the exact price but they were cheaper than ones that look the same from internet sites.

Under $100 for a small one.

FI didn't chase me away......I can handle that......I'm just busy with other things and sometimes forget and lose my user names and passwords for forums or what they are called............Gettinmg old at 34.