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MercedesOtto 11-14-2008 09:42 AM

Better gear ratio for W123 Diesel – What axle would fit ??
 
15" wheels should help the MPG on my 300TD I mounted 15" steel rims with 205/75 tires. The RPM dropped by 10% so I hope I get some better than 20MPG. The ride is super nice on the highway and the tires are stiff enough for stability.

1. What differential could I use for better gear ratio??
2. In what other models can I find that differential ?

rrgrassi 11-14-2008 09:44 AM

2.88 that was used on the '85 w123 and w126. You will need the '85's speedometer as well.

MercedesOtto 11-14-2008 09:46 AM

What ratio does my 1981 300TD wagon have now?

rrgrassi 11-14-2008 10:00 AM

I'm guessing 3.07. It is stamped on the bottom of the rear diff, I just do not remember if it is the left or right corner. You can see it just below the rear diff cover. Of course it needs to be cleaned to read it.

ForcedInduction 11-14-2008 11:38 AM

If you're getting only 20mpg then you're either driving it VERY hard or there are problems dragging down its efficiency.

Search the forum for suggested maintenance points.

curtludwig 11-14-2008 11:49 AM

I don't think mpg is as related to rpm on a diesel as it is on a car. It takes a set amount of POWER to move the car x distance at y speed based on the rolling resistance of the tires and aeordynamic drag. That power requirement when factored with the efficiency of the engine gives fuel economy.
Increased resistance in any way (dragging brakes, added roof racks, who knows what else) will decrease economy, so will decreasing the efficiency of the engine with things like bad thermostats.

rrgrassi 11-14-2008 11:53 AM

The same diesel engine will use more fuel running 3000 rpm vs 2500 rpm, going the same mph.

All the other stuff stated will also factor in.

JackG 11-14-2008 02:28 PM

I couldn't imagine only getting 20 mpg:eek:.
I think the worst I have ever gotten is around 25 in town
with a lead foot.

I think I would look into the maint. things too
Brakes dragging, injectors, tire pressure, etc.

MercedesOtto 11-14-2008 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by curtludwig (Post 2021159)
I don't think mpg is as related to rpm on a diesel as it is on a car. It takes a set amount of POWER to move the car x distance at y speed based on the rolling resistance of the tires and aeordynamic drag. That power requirement when factored with the efficiency of the engine gives fuel economy.
Increased resistance in any way (dragging brakes, added roof racks, who knows what else) will decrease economy, so will decreasing the efficiency of the engine with things like bad thermostats.

The efficiency on internal combustion engines is highly depended RPM. If to low the efficiency is bad and if to high the efficiency is bad. I commute 35 miles each way and a speed on 75-80 MPG. The engine refs 3000-3500 RPM.

Next week I will try my MPG going no faster than 65...we will see.

Still hoping to find a 2.88 axle ....would a 300SD axle fit?

lutzTD 11-14-2008 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MercedesOtto (Post 2021328)
The efficiency on internal combustion engines is highly depended RPM. If to low the efficiency is bad and if to high the efficiency is bad. I commute 35 miles each way and a speed on 75-80 MPG. The engine refs 3000-3500 RPM.

Next week I will try my MPG going no faster than 65...we will see.

Still hoping to find a 2.88 axle ....would a 300SD axle fit?

not sure this works out, at least not for me. I dropped my RPMs by a whole gear and I gained 2-3 city(so far) 5 hwy(estimated due to past difference, I will know when the snowbirds go home) MPG going from the 3.07 to the 2.47.

the 2.47 I have is from a w126, you just have to flip the rear mount. also, when you pull the rear make sure you keep the axles shims as they are sized to the diff.

t walgamuth 11-14-2008 07:32 PM

you need to calculate your effective gear ratio. if it actually reduces rpm 10% then the actual mileage is 22. likewise the speed will be higher so if it reads 60 the actuak would be 66.

the 81 is na so the diff would be 346.

charmalu 11-14-2008 10:21 PM

Look in the resources tab above and click on DIY articles. A good write up on R&R a Diff.

See Post #2 above for 2:88.

Charlie

ForcedInduction 11-14-2008 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 2021539)
the 81 is na so the diff would be 346.

For the 300D/CD, yes. The 300TD was the first non-300SD turbo in 81 so it should be 3.07.

t walgamuth 11-15-2008 12:00 AM

Actually, according to my mb illustrated buyer's guide the cd was turob in '81 too. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a mid year change over.

ForcedInduction 11-15-2008 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t walgamuth (Post 2021724)
the cd was turob in '81 too.

I have yet to see a genuine one.


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