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Old 11-28-2008, 01:14 AM
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As a professional tech I can say it sounds like a rod bearing has gone bad. They show themselves as a progressively louder knock accompanied by excessive whitish smoke. When the rod bearing goes out the piston doesn't get pushed all the up at TDC due to the missing bearing. This lowers the compression enough that the offending cylinder doesn't light off and dumps fuel into the exhaust, causing the smoke. It will be time for an engine. The last 2.5 I rebuilt with a reman shortblock cost the customer over 5k$. That low mileage engine posted above would be a much cheaper option.

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Old 11-28-2008, 08:25 AM
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Sorry to hear about your woes,

If you need an engine, I have one from a 90 300 D 2.5, with 135K miles, Ill could probably meet you in michigan. With trans for 1K USD.
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Old 11-28-2008, 11:28 AM
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A compression test should help confirm the above diagnosis... also, you can drain the oil, and remove the oil pan side sump, and look for shrapnel inside. The pan should be absolutely free of debris. If you find a bunch of metal pieces floating around... that may confirm Dux's suspicion.

Either way, $1k for a good spare engine & tranny is a great deal. If that were anywhere near me, I'd buy it just to have as a spare, lol!

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Old 11-28-2008, 02:01 PM
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Help?

If I can help, my "shop" is a few-hundred feet from US-31 in SW Michigan, or a couple of miles from I-196, and I have an engine crane to help transfer the engine from vehicle to vehicle (depends somewhat on timing also).

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Sorry to hear about your woes,

If you need an engine, I have one from a 90 300 D 2.5, with 135K miles, Ill could probably meet you in michigan. With trans for 1K USD.
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:16 PM
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Guys, your offers are more than generous. Thanks; it's humbling to be among such a decent group of folks! I'll pester Icefire about that engine and tranny, and may well see what I can swing as far as getting the car to MI to swap parts out. Thanks again to all for the help.

I am headed out the door shortly to report and out-process for my TDY. I should have email access on this trip, so I'll try to keep in touch. Thanks again everyone!
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:18 PM
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Old 11-28-2008, 02:59 PM
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you could have a broken prechamber.the ball pin will break off and hit the end of the injector.ive had this happen.the symptoms were identical to those described by you.i recommend to pull all of your injectors and inspect both prechambers and nozzle tips
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Old 11-28-2008, 06:26 PM
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Now I'm asking because I don't know, ... but I thought that the ball/prechamber issue was a 61x problem and didn't affect the 60x??
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Old 11-29-2008, 01:35 PM
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Guys, your offers are more than generous. Thanks; it's humbling to be among such a decent group of folks! I'll pester Icefire about that engine and tranny, and may well see what I can swing as far as getting the car to MI to swap parts out. Thanks again to all for the help.

I am headed out the door shortly to report and out-process for my TDY. I should have email access on this trip, so I'll try to keep in touch. Thanks again everyone!

TDY?????? Haven't used/heard that term in 3 years. When I retired from the Navy..... Good luck with your issue. Knock on wood my 92 is holding up well.

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Old 11-29-2008, 06:00 PM
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Now I'm asking because I don't know, ... but I thought that the ball/prechamber issue was a 61x problem and didn't affect the 60x??
Jeff, the prechambers are very similar in design, and I have heard of at least one 603 prechamber missing the spherical pin inside. This is a very rare failure, but it's possible.

Before swapping engines or pulling the head off the existing engine, I would still pull all 6 injectors, inspect the prechambers visually from above, and do a (hot!) compression test. That should at least tell you if one cylinder is much worse than the others, and will let you know which piston/rod/etc to inspect more closely if/when you take things apart...

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Old 11-29-2008, 06:54 PM
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Different engine, nearly identical symptoms. 84 300 CD suddenly making HORRIBLE noises and running VERY rough

I'm interested to know what could be causing this problem.
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Old 11-30-2008, 07:59 AM
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hey folks... Just checking in en-route to our destination. We're in England today. Lots of nice benzes on base!

Thanks again for all the help. You folks are indeed like family! More later, as time permits.
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Old 01-04-2009, 07:14 PM
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Bumping this one back to the top...

I just got back stateside (talk about an interesting trip!), and will be digging into the car a bit tomorrow if weather allows. I have checked oil level (fine) and coolant (no oil in the overflow tank), but nothing more.

I *did* notice that the entire IP is wet with fuel, and there is fuel on the ground under the car. Some of it, I am sure, leaked when I tried running the car directly from a can of known-good fuel before I left, but there is quite a bit of diesel on the ground under the car. Looks like the IP is really leaking to me. Any thoughts on whether this might be related to my knocking/smoking issue?

Thanks again for all the input, folks. It's sure appreciated!
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Well, I pulled all the injectors, and lo and behold, #1 (the front most -- I assume they are numbered front to back) is oily. I turned her over with the injectors out, and #1 is spewing oil. Sigh...
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Old 01-05-2009, 05:04 PM
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Uh oh. Sorry to hear the bad news.

Do you know what the damage is? Bad rings / piston?

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