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Old 12-16-2008, 12:36 AM
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i was reading an article in the San Francisco Chronicle, it was saying how almost everyone in some areas is without power.

i thought to myself, not everyone

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Old 12-16-2008, 08:13 AM
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Ha, a suicide cable! Nice idea, be carefull, make sure the mains are off so you don't electrocute any techs out on the line.
Who said anything about a suicide cable?

BTW, Great idea and problem solving!

We lost power for a week when I lived in South Carolina a few years ago when an ice storm came through. I did one step above a suicide cable to get my house running. I wired the output of a portable 5000 watt generator into the output of a 240 volt, 20 amp breaker in my panel and back fed the panel. I locked open the main breaker coming into the panel to keep from back feeding the line and endangering the linemen doing the repairs.

I went back in later and had an actual disconnect installed so that I was ready for the next time.

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Old 12-16-2008, 08:20 AM
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I kinda like this idea, I think I will invest in a big inverter for my car and a male-male plug..
Aka. Sucide plug. If you trip and pull the cord out of the wall you now have a nice, 120Vac cattle prod...

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Old 12-16-2008, 09:57 AM
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Very impressive. This is a very resourceful group of folks here on the forum. I'm assuming the electricity is just to run the fan, right?
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:40 AM
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Aka. Sucide plug. If you trip and pull the cord out of the wall you now have a nice, 120Vac cattle prod...

-Jim
It's fun to joke about. I keep both of my male/male cords high and locked. Last power outage I ran 2 5500 watt generators into my main distribution panel. Pissed off the neighbors when I had the porch lights on momentarily at night.

And yes I disconnected my house from the grid before firing those babies up.
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:08 AM
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It's fun to joke about.
I wasn't joking. There are much better ways to connect in. Sucide cords scare the bejingles out of me. Most people make them out of straight plugs. If you use twist locks, most of my worries are gone.

Not trying to start an arguement. I just don't like them.

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Old 12-16-2008, 11:19 AM
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Nothing beats a nice automatic transfer switch with auto-generator-start and dual 3000watt Trace sine-wave inverters to fill the gap ;~)
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Old 12-16-2008, 11:59 AM
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$$$ for a rarely used system.

That reminds me, I need to pull out my generator, change the oil & fuel, and fire it up for a load run. It has been a year or so...

Just being able to safely isolate from the grid and safely feed into the panel is enough for me. I have no problem with doing it manually. With my little 5000W generator I can only run parts of the house. The breaker panel makes it easy to switch around loads.

Sorry for getting off topic. I still am impressed with the quick thinking to power the furnace controls and fans off of an inverter driven by your MB!

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She is still running along. I shut her down for a little bit yesterday when I was out cutting up some of the downed trees here. There are a ton of people without power. As of right now 113,000 homes without power in NH, and we have snow on the way!! That makes for a lot of people who can't takes showers!! I got one yesterday and should be good for a few more days.

The reason we don't have a generator is cost, 500 bucks for a cheap one with out 220V thats how many tanks of diesel...., 700 for one with 220V to run the water pump is just to much money for the week we may use it a year.
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Bump!

Did you get power back yet?

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and to think that MB never thought to put a PTO on the fronts of our cars.

The German Bundeswehr in the days of the Warsaw pact had a 24V Unimog with a PTO in front to run a generator or a pump of some kind (maybe water pump?). Haven't seen one since 88 but sounds like it would be handy and easy to build
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Forgot to add: Model T cars were made that way too, but to run milking machines and cement mixers
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Old 12-21-2008, 08:04 PM
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Hmmm my 5.5KW gen head is just sitting in the shed... and I have all these parts cars sitting around... I'm thinking a project is in the mix soon...
but yeah, I've hooked up to the spare batteries on occasion to keep heat on at night when the power goes out. it's just amazing how long two MB batteries will power a 1200watt inverter... start up the car every once in a while and tv/computer/heat works great! oh, you can run your electric water heater off an inverter... it just heats very slowly. the 4500watt elements only pull about 1200 watts at 110v...
I have a 17hp Kubota 2cyl tractor for charging the inverter... and I am pretty sure the pto will drive the gen head... that makes more sense than hacking up an MB... gotta go look up the plans for the RED/Green pto kit...
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When you have no power for extended periods of time almost anything is better than nothing. If you can stay satisfied with running a few lights and furnace you should be okay.

The furnace is not a continious load cycle so it should not flaten the car battery very much. Probably the average duty cycle of the pump and fan is less than 20 percent timewise. You should install a much larger alternator though as at idle speeds the output will be higher.

Reallly short stroke diesel engines are the ones damaged by idling I think. The very few times you are likely to use your setup are probably neither here or there in terms of engine longivity.
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When you have no power for extended periods of time almost anything is better than nothing. If you can stay satisfied with running a few lights and furnace you should be okay.

The furnace is not a continious load cycle so it should not flaten the car battery very much. Probably the average duty cycle of the pump and fan is less than 20 percent timewise. You should install a much larger alternator though as at idle speeds the output will be higher.

Reallly short stroke diesel engines are the ones damaged by idling I think. The very few times you are likely to use your setup are probably neither here or there in terms of engine longivity.

From watching my neighbours experiences I would not buy a cheap chinese genset at this point. The chinese will probably build better in the future.

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