What's coldest temp your diesels can start???
 

Mine is at 10*F with new nozzles and Valve adjustment, Hmm... That reminds me i need to change my GP :eek:,

first crank 2 cylindes will start firing, 5-6 second later 3 cylinders will be firing, about 3 seconds later 4 cylinders is firing, than it runs like crap about 3 second then all 5 cylinders fires up, this is what i am experiencing every time when it drops near single digit numbers...By the way i love it when diesel struggles to start but i hate it if it can't start :mad:...

I've started mine at -12F before with NO block heater and it had sat for over 14 hours at that temp. Took about 10ish seconds of cranking after a 25-30 second glow. My engine rocks. :D Right now its about 12F outside, it fires a cylinder on the first rotation and is running in less than 2 seconds after a 20 second glow. It starts BETTER now than when I got it 70,000 miles ago. I attribute it to 55k on synthetic oil.

Remember To Follow
 

The factory extreme cold start drill :

pump the acellerator twice then hold to floor (someone PLEASE tell me how this helps ?!)

Cycle the glow plugs twice then crank the engine but DO NOT LET OFF THE KEY untill all 5 cylinders are firing and it'll start every time , first time .

When the car was new there was a red cradboard tag with all the extreme cold starting drill info on it..

Last winter the 300D started at 8 or 9 F just like it was a warm day. The 240 was starting with difficulty down into the high teens and that was the coldest I tried it. It's supposed to get down to 9 tonight, and I'd like to drive the 240 to work tommorow. Lately, it's been having battery/slow drain issues that my multimeter refuses to measure, so I'm off to Wally World to get an extension cord so I can use the block heater.

I think that's supposed to help prime the IP?

Mine starts normally, it was probably about 15 degrees in my garage, except I forgot to put in the lighter oil weight this time, so it needs a little gas right off the bat to keep turning.

The coldest mine start is around 30 degrees. Mainly because I refuse to live anyplace that gets colder than that.......:earmuffs:

i was in tahoe, and it started right up after two glow cycles, i estimated minus 2 degrees F

Dunno, but she started pretty much normally (a couple of stumbles) almost the first rev after 2 glow cycles at 20-something on Sunday...

We've had ice on the streets since Friday, so the 300CD is staying home and I'm driving my Jeep 'til the roads are all clear.

I'm not taking ANY chances with some numb-nutz who doesn't know how to drive in bad weather plowing into me and totaling my Benz!

Unfortunately, between the rarity of snowy weather, and the excess number of California transplants, we have a LOT of people around here who have no clue about how to drive in snowy/icy conditions

It's 22 now, my 240D started, but my SD would not with out plugging in. I did have a glow plug out in the SD though...

Last time I started my SDL it was 18*F outside, and it started like it was 60 :D

A moment of silence while we wait for the glow plugs...

-Jason

Even jumping the battery for extra charging, my SD refused to start at all @ 35 F a few days ago. Then again, the engine has been showing signs of extreme amounts of blow by, so low compression isn't helping at all!

On the other hand, the parts car that I bought for an engine, I'd never had it cranked up since I bought it until the day the SD didn't want to play, and it cranked up in 5 seconds flat, with a short glow cycle to boot.

(I *really* need to get around to swapping the engines...)

last winter the sdl started in zero degree weather with one glow plug out no block heater This year who knows the 18 year old hasnt called so I guess it starts

last winter...........Candy started when it was 8 degrees. That temperature is too cold for any Elvis sightings. It doesn't normally get that cold here.....but maybe once ever 3 years. Anyway, Candy never spent a night in the garage and hadn't been started in like a week.

One full glow cycle (wait for the relay to go "glunk"); turn key off, then back on.......20 seconds later, starts on all 5 cylinders like it was 60F out.


Speaking of cold starts, I've "fixed" the rough starting on Coda. I have instructed the "driver" that they need to wait longer in the glow cycle before cranking; waiting until the light goes off is not long enough when she has sat outside or all day (no lunch) at the office. Last night, it was about 29 when I left the office and I didn't wait for the "glunk", but waited past the light going out and she started better.

Reminds me of a gas tractor we had that got water in the exhaust. (Summer)Start with ether, firing on only one. We let it sit in the driveway for about half an hour, every couple minutes you could hear another cylinder start to fire:)

On topic, I can cold start down to -20*F(Haven't owned it in colder weather to find out) If that #1GP goes though, she's only good down to 50*F

I've started my 85TD at 35 below zero F without a block heater. It would not stay running because the fuel was gelled. I was told by the tow truck driver that he sees it a lot because Denver does not winterize diesel fuel. Mountain towns do by mixing #1 and #2 in various proportions depending upon the typical temperature in the region. I was surprised to learn this (if it is true).
I wonder if some of the starting problems we are discussing would be alleviated with proper fuels or additives. For instance, would straight #1 diesel mitigate the 'only get once chance to start' problem?

ten below zero yesterday. no block heater, sitting for 12 hours. fired right up on the first glow cycle. I have started her at -18 before, no block heater. now I have a circulation heater, but I forgot to plug her in monday night when I got home at 1:30 am after a 280 mile RT.

5 new Bosch GP's this fall, 5-40 rotella, recent valve adjustment, and 400+psi compression makes all the difference. really its the oil that makes the biggest difference. no go at +7*F w/ 15-40 in it. but I was not a pro cold diesel starter at that point in time, either- my first winter with the benz.

my car eats glow plug relays...another relay died on me...


but I can start it in FL's cold of 30F (sometimes) without an issue.

I've started one of my cars as low as -20F.

This is from my factory owners manual:

Ambient temperature below 0 degree C

Depress accelerator to the floor. Turn key in stering lock clockwise to the stop. Release key only when the engine is firing regularly and back off accelerator slowly.

Do not interrupt the starting process. If the engine is very cold it is possisble that it will fail to start on subsequent attempts.

My the coldest I started my 82 SD was 9F. No garage, no block heater, and well over 300k on the clock. I had to keep my foot on the till it warmed up. That was after I changed the glow plugs. Before the GPs it wouldn't even start at all below 35.

The '95 doesn't seem to be phased by cold weather at all. Starts instantly at soon at the light goes out. (When I don't have gelled biodiesel in there!) It hasn't gotten down to 9 yet, but close.

Valve Adjust And Correct Oil !
 

Are prolly the two most important things as tight valves lower the compression right when you need it most and thick oil slows the cranking speed.....

Synthetic oils help a LOT .

What bugs me is all the stupid customers whi skip having the valves adjusted " they're FINE ! " then ***** when the car has cold start issues or misses ~ how the hell would they know if the valves are ' fine ' or not ? when they go tight , they're SILENT so you cannot tell...

A good running engine has valves that click like grandma's old sewing machine .

My 300SD fail to start at this morning
 

What gives, i had half tank of fuel with power service additive in it, and it fail to start, temp was 16*F, it started on that same temp every time but it struggles, i cycle my GP 3 times and start until it runs. :eek: but today it just wont, battery is probably getting tired of that long cranking, looks like i have to drive long and far for a while...

No garage and no block heater I keep a battery tender hooked into my battery to keep it warm overnight. I started my car in -30c (-22f) in a few seconds of cranking after it has been sitting for days. It was so cold my door wouldn't latch when I closed the door, it would bounce back open a few times.

While not a good thing, my 617 starts faster in the extreme cold than my wife's M103....well, maybe not faster, but about the same.

I'm tempted to wire up a float charger in addition to a block heater; that way I'd have a nice fresh battery and warm block in the morning :)

I wired a snap-on battery tender under my dash with a 120v relay to make contact when the car is plugged in. As soon as it's unplugged the relay opens and the battery tender is disconnected from the battery/alternator of the running engine. It is why I can start my car in our current weather. A strong warm battery makes a big difference.

Well I havn't really driven the SDL in the winter, but when I first got it I wanted to try so I left it outside unpluged and when I started it in the morning the dash temp guage was showing -2. I just turned the key when the GP light went out and it fired right up. I need to figure out whats going on with that car, its been starting poorly on new GP's. I'll have to see if they are actualy glowing at some point.

My 300SD never started well, that car was shot. I had to plug it in if it was going to be in the low 20's that night or it wouldn't start.

I think I found the threshold for my 240D starting. I plugged in last night and it started up fine at 10 degrees. Then it sat out in front of my work for almost nine hours (worked a little late:D) and tried to start it at 16 degrees. It coughed, but didn't start, and then I ran the battery down (didn't take long) on subsequent attempts. I used a 50 second glow on the unsuccessful attempt, and 60 seconds when I jump started it, so I think if I had done 60 seconds the first time, it may have started.

I've been getting excessive smoke on startup, and a little white smoke along with lack of power (hard to tell on a 240) even when warmed up, so I need to check a few things. I already know the tank strainer is clogged, but not badly, and I want to have my injectors tested. It also occured to me that I really should check the timing chain stretch. I forgot to do it when I adjusted the valves, and at the rate I drive the car, it won't be due for that service again for about three years.

I think it got down onto the 40s one morning when I pulled mine out of the garage.