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Old 01-29-2009, 11:58 AM
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Could a Diesel start in lets say 80 degree weather with all bad glow plugs? just curious

Yes , easily down to 60* F temperatures if the engine is in decent shape and properly tuned . SWMBO's 1982 240D with 310,000 miles will start on the first crank down to 57* or so .
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Old 02-02-2009, 08:00 PM
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123 wagon pick-up

Have seen a real sweet 123 wagon that was made into an el camino-style pick-up. Has the bottom half of the rear hatch/door as the tail gate and the factory tail lights. Took a picture of it on my phone. Will post a picture if I can figure out how to upload it.
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Old 02-02-2009, 09:26 PM
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my cummins doesnt have glowplugs, and it starts down to the teens ok(it doesnt have a grid heater, ether

but an engine that is designed for GP's should have them. they are not too much $$ for our engines.
The cummins has an intake heater.

Bigger displacement diesels don't need the glow plugs for some reason, and some are designed to take ether as a normal starting aid.
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Old 02-03-2009, 01:25 AM
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The cummins has an intake heater.

Bigger displacement diesels don't need the glow plugs for some reason, and some are designed to take ether as a normal starting aid.
You'll note that I said My cummins does not. It is a 4B. they do have a lower compression ratio than our benz's. prolly helps on the ether thing.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:19 AM
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You'll note that I said My cummins does not. It is a 4B. they do have a lower compression ratio than our benz's. prolly helps on the ether thing.
Sorry.
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I should have clarified that in my first post...........
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:22 PM
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My Cummins has stickers everywhere warning of ether or starting fluids. At -11F it starts but the fuel presumably was gelled up.
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I really really had to stare at the pictures for a while and finally figured it out! It's a VW "caddy" pickup rear cab section and tailgate. I knew it looked very very familiar but wouldn't have imagined it was vw stuff. Here's the tail tail (tail) sign:


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Old 03-02-2009, 08:59 AM
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The cummins has an intake heater.

Bigger displacement diesels don't need the glow plugs for some reason, and some are designed to take ether as a normal starting aid.
Our Cummins, an M11, has an IH Ether System installed. There's a button on the dash and a bracket under the hood for a large bottle of ether. (We don't use it, we just plug it in when it gets cold.)
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Old 03-02-2009, 01:14 PM
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The Cummins and a lot of truck engines are Direct injection and usually don`t have Glow Plugs.

It seem most automotive Diesels have GP, and have a swirl chamber the fuel is sprayed into. This is the way my Datsun (Nissan) Diesel is. I do know if the GP give me trouble it won`t start, or will have to glow several times and will knock, bang and jump around till it warms up.

The IHC 466DT engines we had at work,didn`t have GP and would start usually w/o any hesatation.Drove them from 81 to 06.

I tremember that 220 pick up when it was on E-bay. good a forum member has it now instead of the JY. Interesting observation to notice the bed is a VW Rabbit PU bed and tail gate. Wondered how it would be made leak proof between the cab and bed.
The neighbor has a 72 220D in his field HMMM .

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