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Old 01-06-2009, 10:59 PM
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All legal and environmental opinions aside...

Will your engine burn it? Sure - might smoke a bit though.

Will it harm your engine? Maybe - most likely issues are with it being too thick (viscosity) for your injection pump to handle for the long run, and possibly excessive soot and carbon plugging up your injector tips.

Would I run it? Straight - no. Diluted with diesel - sure. I'd start out with about a 20% oil, 80% diesel mix and go up or down with the ratio from there - depending on the results (power, smoke, exhaust smell, etc.). I'd also filter it really well first. Somewhere down around 1-2 microns absolute.

But then I don't worship the engine or view it as something sacred to be protected, babied, and treasured forever either. It is a machine - a fine machine to be sure - but still just a machine, and it is meant to be used. I specifically bought a Mecedes IDI because they are about THE most tolerant engine there is when it comes to alternative fuels, and that's what I wanted - to be able to use alternative fuels.

Saving enough on fuel to pay for a replacement engine 3 or 4 or more times over (even assuming the alternative fuel actually damages it) is a worthwhile proposition IMO. But that's just one opinion.

I seriously doubt that burning this hydraulic fluid will do any more harm to the environment than hopping up the engine until it blows clouds of black diesel smoke when you step on the go pedal. You know, things like removing the ALDA and EGR and other smog equipment, increasing the throughput of the injection pump, and so on. The kind of performance modifications some people around here are obsessed with...

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Old 01-07-2009, 04:54 AM
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But then I don't worship the engine or view it as something sacred to be protected, babied, and treasured forever either. It is a machine - a fine machine to be sure - but still just a machine, and it is meant to be used. I specifically bought a Mecedes IDI because they are about THE most tolerant engine there is when it comes to alternative fuels, and that's what I wanted - to be able to use alternative fuels.
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All legal and environmental opinions aside...

Will your engine burn it? Sure - might smoke a bit though.

Will it harm your engine? Maybe - most likely issues are with it being too thick (viscosity) for your injection pump to handle for the long run, and possibly excessive soot and carbon plugging up your injector tips.

Would I run it? Straight - no. Diluted with diesel - sure. I'd start out with about a 20% oil, 80% diesel mix and go up or down with the ratio from there - depending on the results (power, smoke, exhaust smell, etc.). I'd also filter it really well first. Somewhere down around 1-2 microns absolute.

But then I don't worship the engine or view it as something sacred to be protected, babied, and treasured forever either. It is a machine - a fine machine to be sure - but still just a machine, and it is meant to be used. I specifically bought a Mecedes IDI because they are about THE most tolerant engine there is when it comes to alternative fuels, and that's what I wanted - to be able to use alternative fuels.

Saving enough on fuel to pay for a replacement engine 3 or 4 or more times over (even assuming the alternative fuel actually damages it) is a worthwhile proposition IMO. But that's just one opinion.

I seriously doubt that burning this hydraulic fluid will do any more harm to the environment than hopping up the engine until it blows clouds of black diesel smoke when you step on the go pedal. You know, things like removing the ALDA and EGR and other smog equipment, increasing the throughput of the injection pump, and so on. The kind of performance modifications some people around here are obsessed with...
Nicely put. I agree. I would do it to offset the difference in cost of diesel fuel. Screw the Gov't. They have their heads so far up their a$$es on most every topic most laws are crap anyway. RT
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Old 01-07-2009, 09:01 PM
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Nicely put. I agree. I would do it to offset the difference in cost of diesel fuel. Screw the Gov't. They have their heads so far up their a$$es on most every topic most laws are crap anyway. RT
Not to mention they are taxing us to death on fuel and everything else, then turning around and wasting a huge percentage of the blood sweat and tears they steal from us.

Never mind the fact that the laws that would prohibit this are unenforced because they are all but unenforceable (unless someone wants to be Big Brother's snitch and turn you in).
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Go for it.





diesel fuel isnt exactly great for the enviroment either. Its just what we use for fuel, and people are dillusional enough to think hydraulic oil is worse for the enviroment.

People run VEGETABLE OIL in their cars for MANY thousands of miles. You think hydraulic oil is bad? Are you serious? Think about it people. It might be bad, but running vegetable oil is worse and people do that for MANY thousands of miles. However, we've grown used to the "genocide" and bash people for running a small amount of petroleum based oil.



Tax reasons? Who cares! None of us give a s%@t if we can drive our cars under the table. I don't care, you don't care, lance doesn't care either.



Run the oil. It will probably be BETTER for your pump than low sulfur diesel. After all, your pump IS a hydraulic oil pump. As for viscosity, I would probably dilute it 50/50.


Burning HO probably does produce more "ash" than D2, but so does veggie oil.
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But then I don't worship the engine or view it as something sacred to be protected, babied, and treasured forever either. It is a machine - a fine machine to be sure - but still just a machine, and it is meant to be used. I specifically bought a Mecedes IDI because they are about THE most tolerant engine there is when it comes to alternative fuels, and that's what I wanted - to be able to use alternative fuels.
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Hydraulic oil is a great oil to use in your Benz. I've used it before. We nicknamed it "rocket fuel".

If you're worried, just pour it into a quarter to half full tank of diesel and enjoy!

I wish I had a supply of that stuff up here, then I could be running it in the winter. I have to stop my WVO when it gets cold.
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I run about 70% Tellus 32(basically the same stuff) year around. It is a bit harder to start in the winter, and it stinks more than diesel. Otherwise no additional smoke, or power difference. I have about 15000 miles of tellus use in my truck and 6000 in the benz. Filter it well if it is used and mix with at least 30% diesel.
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Somewhere down around 1-2 microns absolute.
I filter to 2 mic absolute
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But then I don't worship the engine or view it as something sacred to be protected, babied, and treasured forever either. It is a machine - a fine machine to be sure - but still just a machine, and it is meant to be used. I specifically bought a Mecedes IDI because they are about THE most tolerant engine there is when it comes to alternative fuels, and that's what I wanted - to be able to use alternative fuels.
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Saving enough on fuel to pay for a replacement engine 3 or 4 or more times over (even assuming the alternative fuel actually damages it) is a worthwhile proposition IMO. But that's just one opinion.
I have already saved enough to pay for my car in 6 months

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