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Old 01-10-2009, 02:13 AM
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Plastic/metal fan question

My '83 300D has a metal fan.

The '85 300TD (wagon) has a plastic one.

The plastic fan can turn even when the engine is off - turning it does not turn the engine.

Attempting to turn the metal fan on my '83 does not have the same effect - the engine attempts to turn too.

Is this normal?

Is there any advantage to either fan type?

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Old 01-10-2009, 05:17 AM
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Not normal, the clutch of the metal fan has failed. Replace it asap because the fan can fail (break apart) at high rpm with a frozen clutch!

The plastic fan is better. Its lighter, moves more air and is a more efficient design. Your 85 also has a smaller water pump pulley (0.9:1 instead of 1.09:1) which helps turn the fan and pump faster.
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Old 01-10-2009, 05:50 AM
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I would bet his '85 has the same pulley size as his '83. I found that the '84-'85 617.951s had the smaller pulley and the 617.952s of the same years didn't.
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Old 01-10-2009, 05:53 AM
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Not normal, the clutch of the metal fan has failed. Replace it asap because the fan can fail (break apart) at high rpm with a frozen clutch!
Thanks!

Seems new fan clutches are not cheap... time for a trip to the yard.

Is this an easy DIY?
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Old 01-10-2009, 05:54 AM
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I would bet his '85 has the same pulley size as his '83. I found that the '84-'85 617.951s had the smaller pulley and the 617.952s of the same years didn't.
That may be the case. The fan and pulley I got were off an 84 300SD.

I don't have access to the TSB to check. Can somebody with AllData upload it?

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