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babymog 02-10-2009 06:33 PM

The fan is not designed to go full engine RPM. A bad clutch is a problem.

jt20 02-10-2009 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 2106354)
Dang clutch was for metal fan.So got rid off fan and clutch.Using a E Fan.Wow what a difference.My clutch must have been locked all the time.I've got more power to the tires.


wait a second. The clutch for the metal fans is different than the clutch for the plastic fans?

oldsinner111 02-10-2009 07:19 PM

Yeah I have a plastic.However I've found too a Mustang E Fan is rated at 2800 cfm. So Jegs here I go.

jt20 02-10-2009 07:24 PM

that sucks. Anybody want a metal fan?

guess they have different flow rates.

kerry 02-10-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Actros617 (Post 2106364)
Can the fan BREAK if its direct shaft??? I mean How much stress can the fan handle till it turns into a grenade.....

At least some 240d's had no fan clutch, just a direct drive metal fan.

I once had a fan blade break off at 60 mph on a Toyota FJ55 Cruiser. Hell of a shock. Whole truck was vibrating like crazy. I thought I'd thrown a rod. Blade went up thru the radiator, straight thru the hood and up into the atmosphere. No prior indication of a problem. I now remember to keep my body out of line with the fan.

ForcedInduction 02-11-2009 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by kerry (Post 2106467)
At least some 240d's had no fan clutch, just a direct drive metal fan.

Its a completely different fan though.

The aluminum clutched fan is designed to never see more than 3500rpm with the clutch locked. If the clutch is seized solid the fan can be spun higher to its failure point.

t walgamuth 02-11-2009 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ForcedInduction (Post 2106901)
Its a completely different fan though.

The aluminum clutched fan is designed to never see more than 3500rpm with the clutch locked. If the clutch is seized solid the fan can be spun higher to its failure point.

Theoretically.

Personally I doubt that they would. I would think that the engineers at benz would design it to stay together in the event that the clutch binds up.

kerry 02-11-2009 10:37 AM

I have a vague recollection of a tab on the back of the clutch that enable a person to lock the clutch to the water pump and fix it in place should the clutch fail. This allows a person to get full cooling from a failed clutch. Am I just imagining this feature?

compu_85 02-11-2009 12:08 PM

I didn't see any such tab on my car. And when the fan clutch failed, the fan basically freewheeled. The good news is my late W126 has two shrouded pusher fans for the air con, and those were able to keep it from overheating (I unplugged the temp sensor to make them come on all the time)

-Jason

ForcedInduction 02-11-2009 12:10 PM

I don't see one.

http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/hir...300&height=300
http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/hir...300&height=300

kerry 02-11-2009 12:40 PM

Here's a post from years ago that I made. That's what I was thinking about.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/457000-post4.html

Looka like that tab is on the van clutch.

WD8CDH 02-11-2009 03:16 PM

In all of the cars that I have owned, 2/3 of them were electric cooling fans. None of them failed. I have had 4 mechanical fan clutches fail, all failing on rather than freewheeling.

The performance and economy of the 3 vehicles that I converted to electric cooling fans from mechanical was noticeable, but in most cases worth it when changing from a BROKEN mechanical fan but maybe not to convert from a working mechanical fan. In all cases, the properly sized and controlled electric cooling fans performed better than the original system.

jt20 02-12-2009 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by oldsinner111 (Post 2080147)
OK,I've found a clutch at a very good price.Thanks for discussion.
Forced is my Idol.


hopefully you will come to your senses after being on this forum long enough.

Which electric fans were you considering?

oldsinner111 02-12-2009 12:45 PM

done bought one for a Mustang conversion 3800 cfm,works great.Even wired the Mercedes aux fan in case of failure.16" trouqflex.

Shawn D. 02-12-2009 12:46 PM

When the fan clutch on my 300TD went bad, it started freewheeling and wobbling -- definitely non-functional and dangerous. Having worked in an auto parts store and having been on other boards for other marques', I know of damaged radiators from clutch failure, although I'm sure some here will claim it could never happen in an MB.

I was able to get a SPAL 30101516 fan and pulse-width-modulated fan speed controller for less than the price of a new fan clutch, so I went that route.


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