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Old 01-20-2009, 09:53 PM
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No heat above 45 mph?

I have an 84 300d. The heat works great if I keep my speed under 45 mph. Above that, the fan still blows air but not hot. When I slow down, the air instantly gets hot. I have searched some threads but have not read anything relating to this problem. If I read correctly, the water valve is vacuum operated but the default is open. If I have a vacuum leak would not the valve default to open?

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Old 01-20-2009, 09:56 PM
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If I read correctly, the water valve is vacuum operated but the default is open.
You must have been reading a selection from the fiction section!!! The heater valve is electrically operated.

Replace your monovalve diaphragm. Chances are about 100:1 that your heat will work fine after that.
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:21 PM
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I second that, replace Monovalve guts.
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:45 PM
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I say clean the screen on the monovalve first (but buy a new insert anyway).
And, watch how it comes apart, and goes back together.
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Old 01-20-2009, 10:52 PM
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Even if it defaults to open, with a bad diaphragm you won't get good heat at high engine speeds.

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Old 01-20-2009, 10:58 PM
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That is why I was thinking dirty screen. The insert is just to have on hand for when the diaphragm breaks (which it will eventually do).
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:48 PM
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And if the mono valve doesnt fix it, you might be just too low on coolant. lack of heat at higher speeds is classic low coolant level.
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Old 01-21-2009, 01:38 PM
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And if the mono valve doesnt fix it, you might be just too low on coolant. lack of heat at higher speeds is classic low coolant level.
Really? In my head it doesn't seem like that should be the case. If you were low on coolant, wouldn't the flow be less at slow speeds causing even less heat below 45mph?
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Higher speeds robs the heater core of coolant, thus less heat.
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Really? In my head it doesn't seem like that should be the case. If you were low on coolant, wouldn't the flow be less at slow speeds causing even less heat below 45mph?
Normally that is the case, but these cars need an Auxilliary water pump to maintaijn a consistent temp of coolant going to the heater core. At higher speeds in my 1983, the coolant seems to bypass the heater core on the freeway without the Aux pump kicking in. Actually, this might be your problem too, an Auxilliary water pump failure.
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You have a leaky diaphragm in your monovalve. I think the higher coolant pressure at higher revs pushes coolant through the tear and starts to close the valve.
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:20 PM
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Higher speeds robs the heater core of coolant, thus less heat.
That's an interesting theory!!!

How, exactly, does high speed "rob" coolant?
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Old 01-22-2009, 05:24 PM
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Normally that is the case, but these cars need an Auxilliary water pump to maintaijn a consistent temp of coolant going to the heater core. At higher speeds in my 1983, the coolant seems to bypass the heater core on the freeway without the Aux pump kicking in. Actually, this might be your problem too, an Auxilliary water pump failure.
In theory, an aux pump failure would cause exactly the opposite symptoms. Its purpose is to improve coolant flow at low rpm. The water pump needs little help at higher rpm.
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In theory, an aux pump failure would cause exactly the opposite symptoms. Its purpose is to improve coolant flow at low rpm. The water pump needs little help at higher rpm.
That is why I am having problems understanding why low coolant would cause LESS heat at high rpms. I ran around all of last winter with NO aux water pump and the first part of this winter. I also wired the aux water pump to a switch on the dash.

When I have no aux pump, it takes quite a bit longer to warm up in the car (I have a thermometer in the vent). It also only puts decent heat out at high rpms.

So in my experience it has been the opposite. High rpms gives me heat the best. So low coolant should not cause the OPs problem.

High RPMS= high coolant flow = best heat

The problem must lie in the monovalve or electrical system somewhere.

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