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No heat above 45 mph?
I have an 84 300d. The heat works great if I keep my speed under 45 mph. Above that, the fan still blows air but not hot. When I slow down, the air instantly gets hot. I have searched some threads but have not read anything relating to this problem. If I read correctly, the water valve is vacuum operated but the default is open. If I have a vacuum leak would not the valve default to open?
Thanks in advance for your input. Steve |
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Replace your monovalve diaphragm. Chances are about 100:1 that your heat will work fine after that. |
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I second that, replace Monovalve guts.
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I say clean the screen on the monovalve first (but buy a new insert anyway).
And, watch how it comes apart, and goes back together.
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Even if it defaults to open, with a bad diaphragm you won't get good heat at high engine speeds.
Sixto 87 300D |
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That is why I was thinking dirty screen. The insert is just to have on hand for when the diaphragm breaks (which it will eventually do).
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And if the mono valve doesnt fix it, you might be just too low on coolant. lack of heat at higher speeds is classic low coolant level.
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Really? In my head it doesn't seem like that should be the case. If you were low on coolant, wouldn't the flow be less at slow speeds causing even less heat below 45mph?
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Higher speeds robs the heater core of coolant, thus less heat.
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Normally that is the case, but these cars need an Auxilliary water pump to maintaijn a consistent temp of coolant going to the heater core. At higher speeds in my 1983, the coolant seems to bypass the heater core on the freeway without the Aux pump kicking in. Actually, this might be your problem too, an Auxilliary water pump failure.
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You have a leaky diaphragm in your monovalve. I think the higher coolant pressure at higher revs pushes coolant through the tear and starts to close the valve.
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That's an interesting theory!!!
How, exactly, does high speed "rob" coolant? |
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When I have no aux pump, it takes quite a bit longer to warm up in the car (I have a thermometer in the vent). It also only puts decent heat out at high rpms. So in my experience it has been the opposite. High rpms gives me heat the best. So low coolant should not cause the OPs problem. High RPMS= high coolant flow = best heat The problem must lie in the monovalve or electrical system somewhere.
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