OM606 Threw a Rod?!?! - Page 5 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

MTUpower · #61 01-28-2009, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by JimmyL

Now William, you're one of my close forum buddies here! I hope I can still disagree with your position but also avoid any hard feelings. I know that you know I respect the heck out of you.
Lance's whole point, which I must agree with, is the correctness of the term. We are distancing from the accepted term you speak of because it is a loose slang of the proper designation of the car. And believe me, I do this fully knowing the irrelevance of my stance. Like so many say, it doesn't matter squat! Well, it does to overly anal OCD Mercedes Dorks like myself. And a large part of this is tongue-in-cheek, so that also needs to be taken into account. If I expected to have a Pulitzer Prize winning stance, would I be using the image of a guy dressed up as a bat holding two Astoria Rapid Flexx Guns!!!!

Hopefully we can get back to kicking each other in the knads without the hostility. It's what we do......

Jimmy I agree and always have it's not technically correct- neither is "gas pedal", but that does not mean it's not a common name or in common use. Really no on can deny that it's commonly used- regardless of any stance on correctness.

rrgrassi · #62 01-28-2009, 12:45 PM

A kick WHERE??

Even accidental or play kicks are painful, if it's a literal kick, not a figure of speech type, then no biggie.

Let's see. last time I was taught by the HS auto shop teacher, the correct term was accelerator pedal. Throttles are really hand operated, according to the teacher. The Ford 8N tractor had a throttle lever, as does most lawn type equipement now.

I do have to agree, proper terminolgy is key. Kind of like when some one says to "change the plugs" If a diesel, we assume glow plugs. If a gasser we assume spark plugs. In a mixed crowd, then things get interesting.

mcguirjf · #63 01-28-2009, 01:14 PM

First. I'm sorry. I did expect to create a 5 page battle. The vehicle I was referring to was a 1998 E300 Turbo diesel sedan.

My understanding was that in 1996-1997 MB E300 was a NA Diesel sedan, and in 1998-1999 MB added a turbo to the sedan. 1995 E300 was a W124 sedan but with the OM606 NA engine. NA = Naturally aspirated or Non-Turbo.

I was just looking to see if anyone with a similar vehicle experienced the same failure. I was curious to see if there was some kind of manufacturing defect to look out for like the "rod benders".

In the end I'm still going to have to look at buying a new engine. My major concern is the extent of the abuse the car suffered, if any. What should I offer the guy? I know to also check the front spring perches for rot.

Another idea I'm considering is dropping a OM602 in its place, if possible.

Let me know if anyone has a lead to a OM606 short block.
Thanks

babymog · #64 01-28-2009, 01:18 PM

"Gas station" anyone?

I for one am happy that this degraded into a cordial, although completely useless thread, it's kind of like talking to Microsoft technical support (IMO of course <>).

babymog · #65 01-28-2009, 01:28 PM

If it were cheap enough, a 603 would certainly be do-able (603 is 6-cylinder quite similar to the 606turbo but about 25hp less and less electronics). The 606 head and other parts would pretty much finance the project if a good used 603 were available. 602 is only a 5cylinder, probably as simple but you lose another 25hp, plus the reduced weight on the springs etc.

Seems like finding a good 606t long-block would be the best option.

I'm not aware of any common problems on the 606 more serious than the glow-plugs seizing in the head, has been a reliable engine and worth saving.

rrgrassi · #66 01-28-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by mcguirjf

First. I'm sorry. I did expect to create a 5 page battle. The vehicle I was referring to was a 1998 E300 Turbo diesel sedan.

My understanding was that in 1996-1997 MB E300 was a NA Diesel sedan, and in 1998-1999 MB added a turbo to the sedan. 1995 E300 was a W124 sedan but with the OM606 NA engine. NA = Naturally aspirated or Non-Turbo.

I was just looking to see if anyone with a similar vehicle experienced the same failure. I was curious to see if there was some kind of manufacturing defect to look out for like the "rod benders".

In the end I'm still going to have to look at buying a new engine. My major concern is the extent of the abuse the car suffered, if any. What should I offer the guy? I know to also check the front spring perches for rot.

Another idea I'm considering is dropping a OM602 in its place, if possible.

Let me know if anyone has a lead to a OM606 short block.
Thanks

You were not the cause, so no worries!

Can you get access to the prior maintenance/repair records?

TylerH860 · #67 02-21-2009, 05:17 AM

How the heck did I miss this until now?

I'm looking for a ruling on my signature, specifically with the "Excelsior". It is technically an E320, but I put wagon after that. Since the trunk badge of truth does not differentiate, I feel its appropriate to add wagon. Any objections? I don't dare write E320W.

JimmyL · #68 02-21-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by TylerH860

How the heck did I miss this until now?

I'm looking for a ruling on my signature, specifically with the "Excelsior". It is technically an E320, but I put wagon after that. Since the trunk badge of truth does not differentiate, I feel its appropriate to add wagon. Any objections? I don't dare write E320W.

Yes, special dispensation has been granted to your request.

You might have missed this in the past because you didn't stay up until 4:17a.m.

A dispensational ruling has also been levied for the OM606.9xx cars too:
E 300 Diesel
E300 Diesel
E 300 TurboDiesel
E300 TurboDiesel

Sorry, the W210 wagons are waaaay too ugly to hear their cases at the moment.....

TylerH860 · #69 02-21-2009, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JimmyL

You might have missed this in the past because you didn't stay up until 4:17a.m.

It was Friday night, at least. I think I should see someone about my sleep problems.

babymog · #70 02-21-2009, 10:21 PM

I think that E 320 (note the space) T124 would be appropriate also (per Mercedes designation for the T sedan).

Also, is the T offensive if it is not contiguous with the E 320 as in E 320 T vs E 320T or E320T? If non-contiguous, it seems like it is no longer part of the model designation, but a descriptor of sorts.

Lets look at the 300D 2.5 Turbo or the 300D Turbo. Could be 300D T, but not 300DT? Just thinking, ...

TylerH860 · #71 02-21-2009, 11:12 PM

Where do you get the space from?

The space between "E" and "3" is slightly larger than the rest, but same goes for my W123 300Ds. You don't write a 300 (Space) D.

JimmyL · #72 02-22-2009, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by babymog

I think that E 320 (note the space) T124 would be appropriate also (per Mercedes designation for the T sedan).

Also, is the T offensive if it is not contiguous with the E 320 as in E 320 T vs E 320T or E320T? If non-contiguous, it seems like it is no longer part of the model designation, but a descriptor of sorts.

Lets look at the 300D 2.5 Turbo or the 300D Turbo. Could be 300D T, but not 300DT? Just thinking, ...

Dan has experienced the wrath. Don't be next.......

JimmyL · #73 02-22-2009, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TylerH860

Where do you get the space from?

The space between "E" and "3" is slightly larger than the rest, but same goes for my W123 300Ds. You don't write a 300 (Space) D.

It is enough of a space to consider......

I am not familiar so much with what is on the Trunk Badge of Truth on the gasser models, but seems like 300E has no space. Not sure about the 320's.
And you are correct, you DO NOT write 300 D, under any circumstances.
Violators will be prosecuted........

BTW Wagon Boy, the Caped Crusaders of Correct Terminology need to have a united front in the war on rogue T's and terminology abominations!!

TylerH860 · #74 02-22-2009, 06:00 PM

The space seems larger on your trunk, Jimmy.

Something for your trunk arsenal.

Matt L · #75 02-22-2009, 06:15 PM

I don't see any T there. I guess the truth is not setting me free.