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BLACKCDI 02-22-2009 09:14 PM

Changing Glow Plugs on a CDI
 
I am about to put in an order for a 6 new GP for my 2005 CDI.
It has 103.000 with original plugs and the check engine light along with glow plug light are on. The car starts perfect but I would like to change them out, it's time anyway.
There are quite a bit of GP manufacturers out there, should I just stick with Bosh? I also have read several horror stories about broken GP, anyone had any problems like that with a 2005 CDI? Anything I should look out for?

KarTek 02-22-2009 09:21 PM

From what I've read, they have similar problems with breakage that the OM606's do. The advantage of the CDI is that there is a special tool for removing the broken ones.

TMAllison 02-22-2009 09:41 PM

Call your local dealer; OEM is probably Beru rather than Bosch.

BLACKCDI 02-25-2009 11:43 AM

Called a dealer yesterday, they quoted me $50 per plug:eek:
Anyway I have ordered 6 Bosh 0250202045 plugs from ******** for $16.75 each. Funny thing is that both Autozone and Pep Boys were out of stock indefinitely.
I have read somewhere that it is recommended to apply coper based anti seize compound to the body of the plug before install. Anyone has any good recommendations to something like this I can purchase at my local autozone or pep boys?

michakaveli 02-25-2009 12:03 PM

Subscribed.

TMAllison 02-25-2009 12:16 PM

Didnt realize you were local to me. WC MB is worthless. Did they at least tell you which manufacturer was OEM?

Beru sells a high temp grease tht they recommend for their plugs. MB doesn't use anything.

BLACKCDI 02-25-2009 12:56 PM

Nope, I did ask but the advisor told me there is no way to know till they get them in... Yeah right, like they haven't done any other CDI's.
Should I just visit beru.com, any part number?
BTW I am in Vallejo, CA now, use to live right next door to you in Concord

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMAllison (Post 2121952)
Didnt realize you were local to me. WC MB is worthless. Did they at least tell you which manufacturer was OEM?

Beru sells a high temp grease tht they recommend for their plugs. MB doesn't use anything.


TMAllison 02-25-2009 01:01 PM

Give me a couple of hours and I'll find out who is OEM.

BLACKCDI 02-25-2009 02:20 PM

Well, I have the order in for Bosh plugs already, but the hi temp greese is interesting do beru have a p# for it? Thanks

TMAllison 02-25-2009 02:29 PM

Its on Beru's site.

Diesel911 02-26-2009 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BLACKCDI (Post 2121903)
Called a dealer yesterday, they quoted me $50 per plug:eek:
Anyway I have ordered 6 Bosh 0250202045 plugs from ******** for $16.75 each. Funny thing is that both Autozone and Pep Boys were out of stock indefinitely.
have read somewhere that it is recommended to apply coper based anti seize compound to the body of the plug before install. Anyone has any good recommendations to something like this I can purchase at my local autozone or pep boys?I

Beru makes a special grease. However, I have no idea where someone can get some.
http://www.beru.com/english/produkte/gluehkerzen/einbautipps.php

Never-Seez type compounds are available at the regular auto part stores and have stood the test of time.
They have both Copper and silver (nickel?) Never-Seez. I have only ever used the Silver type and have never had any problems on any Glow Plugs of any make or any other parts I have used it on.
I did read somewhere that for this use the Copper Never-Seeze is better but I was not convinced by their argument (in a one of the Threads somewhere).
Also these plugs get trapped by Carbon Deposits around the tip of the plug as well as sticking in the threaded area. Ream out or use an alternative method to clean out these deposits from the Glow Plug holes before new plugs go in.

compu_85 02-26-2009 01:15 AM

Does your CDI use ceramic plugs? If so be *VERY* careful when you take them out. The tips break off very easily.

FYI, Bosch quit making the ceramic glow plugs for the 1.9 and 2.0 Volkswagen PD TDI engines. Current stocks have been exhausted, and a new steel tip plug is all that is available. The only problem is that the ceramic plugs ran at 7 volts, and the new steel tipped ones run at 5, so without a computer reflash the new plugs will burn out very quickly.

-Jason

BLACKCDI 03-08-2009 04:56 PM

Ok, so this morning I decided to tackle glow plugs on my CDI. Sprayed them with liquid wrench waited for an hour and started with the second glow plug from the front of the engine, just too see if it will budge.
No, way the glow plug seemed frozen, I did not force it and tried another one to my surprise it budged, I slowly started unbolting..it was creaking a bit so I went very slowly. Then tried another one, success, then another one and was able to unbolt and remove 5 glow plugs pretty easily!
Now the only one that's left is the first glow plug I tried unbolting, I applied considerable force to it with a small wrench, not even a slightest movement. BTW the glow plugs looked very clean without any carbon build up on them.
Funny thing is that the glow plug I am trying to unbolt is one glow plug that has been replaced by the dealer 40k miles ago! Bastards probably torqued it down!:mad:
So now what do you suggest I do:
1) Replace 5 glow plugs and forget about this one since it's probably still good.
2)Let it soak for a bit longer and try a bigger wrench?

GregoryV022 03-08-2009 05:03 PM

soak it and wrench it. its going to have to come out anyway. might as well be now

babymog 03-08-2009 05:04 PM

I'd try replacing the rest of the GPs, soaking the offending one with PB Blaster during the service, then run the engine to warm (expanding the aluminum head & threads), try the GP again.

If possible try a little impact on the hex of the GP to see if it'll break any bonds.

You could even start with the block heater if you want, can't hurt.

Good luck!!


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