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Auxiliary Water Pump for Heater pulls 0.9 amps
Before installing the inline 1 amp fuse later today I checked the current draw to see what it was measuring.Well the pump sounds fine and pulls 0.9 amps. Just like it is supposed to. (I used a 2 amp external battery charger).
I'm happy it is not frozen and I'll get a 1A fuse later today. (Do I need a slow blow or a fast acting fuse. Sure hope Radio shack has what I need). Then I wanted to do a test: So with a cold car/engine; 32F out, and car battery installed , I got in car, with engine off to see if I could hear the pump run. I had key in position turned clockwise to position just before it cranks engine. I pretty much selected all the buttons and fan speeds to see if the little auxiliary pump would start. It did not start up. My question is this: 1.It there a temperature perameter that needs to be met for this pump to operate? Like the engine needs to warm up to a certain temperature. And if so where is this switch. 2. Does this pump run in any heat mode, ie dial in Red Zone. I really don't know if this pump has operated in the past and I'm semi-tempted to just leave it disconnected as others have done. The heat has been great in the past. I sort of want to keep the car as original as possible and get things done to make the car safer and better. I'm at a cross road. I Have read many links so far just need some assistance and advice. Thanks.
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I can hear mine run when I pre-glow, so I think it should work when the car is cold and the key is on.
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I remember seeing a write up from years past, and it stated a slo-blo fuse. Glad to hear you are doing this mod, it will save a headache later.
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Thank you. I'm done with it. Roy (Hunter) was nice to call me after I sent him an email yesterday about the fuse style. He stated that he has used both slow blow and quick blow fuses. Either is fine according to him. I have no idea what type fuse I put in other than it was a 1 amp. Just a glass outer cover and a fine wire in side. It wasn't paper coated so I'm thinking it is a fast blow. But I'm no expert on fuses. I tested it, hot wired, with a 2 amp battery charger and it ran fine; so fuse holds the load.
Start and stop a few times and no problems. So I'm safe. I asked him if I should fuse the MonoValve and he said no. He said the fuse in the fuse box will blow if the Mono Valve shorts or the coil wires themselves in the Monovalve will just fail and seperate as they are very fine like human hair. So I did not fuse the MonoValve. He said failure of the Mono Valve will not take out the CCU, so I left it unfused. I'm just trying to protect the CCU in event of any future pump seizure. I'll quit while I'm ahead. Thanks for reples.
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I am using a fast blow 1 amp ATO "Blade Type Fuse". Motors generally need a slow blow fuse because there is a possibility of a call for a slight increase of amperage during start up. Then it will settle down. But I don't think this part warrants it. The CCUIII is delicate enough that any increase in amperage could cause havoc. So if the pump does need an extra umph to get started, then it should be replaced.
I believe the pump operates whenever heat is needed on any mode except for "economy". And this is dictated by the temperature in the cabin relating to the temperature setting on the wheel.
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If you find that the motor is running slower with the slo blow fuse, remember that slo blow fuses have more voltage drop than fast blow fuses. You may need to change to a 1.5A or 2A fast blow fuse.
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The pump is triggered by the temperature wheel. Any temperature requiring heat turns it on, even in the "economy" mode....all that mode does is disable the A/C compressor. You should be able to hear it running when glowing the engine....I can hear mine....
Might not be able to hear it quite as well on a 300D though because its further away in the engine compartment than it is on a W126.
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Right. My bad on my previous comment.
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Thanks for replies and information. Now I know what to expect as to when the pump should be running. All modes when set point is above cabin temperature. I'll see if mine runs when I'm Glowing.
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The cold engine lockout doesn't disable the pump?
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Anybody know if there is a Cold Engine Lock temp swit out as Kerry mentioned to disable the pump until engine gets warm or does the pump run even with a cold engine.
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