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Old 02-28-2009, 11:39 PM
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I have a gas bike, my next gasser will be a Chevy I4 or I6(hopefully)
After seeing the bill for injectors for a MB gasser I'm going to stick to domestics

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Old 02-28-2009, 11:40 PM
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I own a w203 c230K. Very nice little fun car. I drive the diesel much more often, but like them both for different reasons.
1982 240 D, 308,000 - 321,127 miles (sold)
1982 300 TD,166,500 - 226,000 miles
1998 E 320, 120,000 - 144,000 miles
2005 C 230 K, 26,000 - 77,000 miles (sold)
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Fulcrum525 View Post
Have a diesel but defiantly looking to buy a 560SEC sometime this year.

After having 380SEC, desire for 560 is a natural thing
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Old 03-01-2009, 01:37 AM
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I have an 94 E420 that goes along with my diesel collection. Its nice to drive but all things considered if its not to cold I drive my W123, in the spring ill be taking my SDC out of storage. Over the 5 years or so of diesel ownership my driving style has become perfectly suited to these mercedes diesels, driving the E420 feels strange, and I find myself traveling way to fast.
1984 Euro 300SDC, (4spd standard)
1986 Toyota Landcruiser Diesel HJ60 5spd X2

Gone but not forgotten (some sold, some stripped)
1983 300 SD, 1985 300 SD, 1983 240D, 1986 300 SDL, 1985 300 SDL, 1983 300 D, 1984 300 D, 1985 300SD, 1987 300 SDL, 1983 300 SD, 1985 300 TD Euro, 1983 380SEC, 1990 300 D, 1987 300D, 1982 300D, 1982 300D, 1994 E420, 1987 300 TD, 1987 300 D, 1984 300 D
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Old 03-01-2009, 07:53 AM
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Two diesels and my 84 280e.
[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.[SIGPIC]

..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
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Old 03-01-2009, 09:16 AM
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I have the 81 300TD wagon(300+K), and a 1995 E320 Wagon(130k) the wagons, gas, diesel...its all good!
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:28 AM
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I have a 1992 300D 2.5 turbo diesel and a 1986 300E, they both are fun to drive.
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:39 AM
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gasser mbs drive nice. They are a much more of a challenge when it comes to troubleshooting problems
1986 300SDL, 211K,Dealership serviced its whole life
1991 190E 2.6(120k)
1983 300D(300k)
1977 300D(211k)
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:28 AM
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I have both

I have both a 240D and a 450SL.They are both great cars!
I find myself driving the gasser more than the 240D though.
If fuel prices start to increase again,the 450 will probably go into "hibernation" for a while.Hard to beat the 32-33MPG the 240 offers.
The 240 was originally purchased as a "safe" car for my daughter.She has been unable to master the manual transmission so I drive it instead.
An auto 240D was a brief thought,but it wouldn't be as "safe".She'd be in constant danger of being rear ended.....0-60 in 2.3 days!!
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:58 AM
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gasser mbs drive nice. They are a much more of a challenge when it comes to troubleshooting problems
You are right there. They can be a pain, trying to fix my ac on the 300E.
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Old 03-01-2009, 12:18 PM
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Since 1973, I've had only Mercedes gassers, until two years ago when I bought a cheap, rusty 1982 240D for some diesel experience, and the possibility of experimenting with alternative fuels. Now my old Mercedes gassers have been pretty much retired and I drive a pair of 240Ds and a Euro 300TD.
Despite the higher cost for diesel. I simply couldn't justify my old gassers poor fuel mileage on premium gas. And I wanted to upgrade to a newer Benz, but without the complication of computers and other electronic gadgets, so my W123s also satisfied that requirement.
But I do miss the extra power, performance, and especialy the extreme smoothness of the old straight sixes in my '72 250 and '60 Fintail, though my 5-speed TD comes pretty close to the Fintail in terms of power and performance.
I should also mention I have a FWD '98 Nissan Altima for use in ice, snow, salt, and other horrible traffic conditions.

Happy Motoring, Mark

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Old 03-01-2009, 01:00 PM
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1st car is a Mercedes diesel, I bought a Subaru gasser for the winter, and I have had my eye on a w116 long body 6.9 Mercedes for a while. I could get it for under 2k... Did I mention it's green on Velour green, manual HVAC controls, euro headlights? My favorite color combination and Mercedes body style, long w116 chassis. What a sweet car. It makes me want to sell my Subie.
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Old 03-01-2009, 01:47 PM
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2 gassers, 2 diesels...

Ol' Turbo sees the most use, followed by the wagon. I drive both gassers in fear of something going horribly wrong, and usually don't take them out of town.
1985 500SL Euro w/ AMG bits 130k
1984 300SD Turbodiesel 192k
1980 240D Stick China 188k
2001 CLK55 AMG 101k
2007 S600 Biturbo 149k Overheated Project, IT'S ALIVE!!!
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Old 03-01-2009, 02:15 PM
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A 300SE. Simple M103 motor I find overall easier to contend with than any of the OM60x turbocharged engines.

But overall I prefer the diesel. Simply because they don't have that lousy dead spot in power delivery from idle to about 4K rpm. The M103 stock tuning is set this way by default...What a PITA! I prefer a V8 gasser over the I6 for city driving. However, the diesel provides the feel of a V8 on city and highway jaunts, plus twice the fuel economy.
1987 300SDL (324000)

1986 Porsche 951 (944 Turbo) (166000)

1978 Porsche 924 (99000)

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Old 03-01-2009, 02:50 PM
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Yep....M103 300E and a 617 300SD.....I like both for what they are....but prefer the diesel's sound and feel....way more torque. The gasser is nice and quiet going 75 on the freeway though. They're more of a pain to troubleshoot....but my throw parts at it method takes care of most problems eventually.

The sound of the gasser when revving it up is pretty awesome.

Mileage and fuel costs are close to the same for both cars. My 300SD gets about 21-25mpg depending on winter/summer and how I drive....

The 300E gets between 15 and 22, once again, very dependent on how I drive.

-diesel is not just a fuel, its a way of life-
'15 GLK250 Bluetec 89k - mine - (OC-91,200)
'17 Metris(VITO!) - 17k - wifes (OC-17k)
'01 E320 Wagon - 160k - mine (OC-160,000)
'01 E320 - 180k - dad's (OC-182,500)
'07 E350 Wagon - 133k - dad's (OC-139,500)
'01 SL500 - 54k - dad's (OC-59,000)
'16 E400 4matic Sedan - 78k - Brothers (OC-80,000)
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