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Old 03-01-2009, 03:20 PM
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My gassers are the Harley and a 1997 Ford F150 pick up. I will say that the Ford truck is about as dependable as anything I have ever had but it sure does use fuel like it is going out of style.
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:23 PM
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I have the BMW for my gasser. I do want either a 190e 2.3 to toss around or a nice 560SEC as a cruise missile. However, the wifey says I would need to get rid of the BMW to fo this and I just Love Fritzie too much to dump her.
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Old 03-01-2009, 03:33 PM
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I enjoy MB engines of all flavors.

MB makes some really good gas motors, there V8's are fantastic!
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but it sure does use fuel like it is going out of style.
It is.
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:06 PM
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I've got two E320s, don't compare to the diesels though, I consider the gassers my throw-away cars.
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Old 03-01-2009, 08:26 PM
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I've owned 123's in the past -- bought my 85 300SD last October, and love it. My wife has an 01 E320 Wagon with 234,xxx miles (work car)...it's been an amazing car.

She keeps it serviced per MB suggestion - we've replaced a couple of coil packs, alternator, starter, a/c compressor, egr tube, mass air flow meter + the normal things like brakes, tires etc... It has started to use a quart of M1 syn about every 1000-1200 miles, but it runs great, is very reliable and she goes anywhere and everwhere in it --- just returned from a Pittsburg, PA trip...

Her gasser has convenced me that MB's are outstanding --- Diesel or Gas.
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Old 03-01-2009, 09:00 PM
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I ran across a Beautiful w126 380sel with under 100k
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:23 PM
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280 engine- great.
300- 6 great
420 good on gas and good power
500 super
560 very nice

450 not as good as the 500/560
380 worst of all of them


now why buy the non running sel again?

Here buy this 280SE euro running and ready to go
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Old 03-01-2009, 10:24 PM
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Nobody knows fuel consumption until they take a Mercedes 6.9 to 140 mph and hold it there.
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Old 03-01-2009, 11:11 PM
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Nobody knows fuel consumption until they take a Mercedes 6.9 to 140 mph and hold it there.
In a 6.9 you measure fuel use like a Jet....in Lbs per hour.....not in MPG.



A Bugatti Veyron can use up its entire 20 something gallon tank in less than 12 minutes at max speed (253mph)....thats close to a gallon every 30 seconds!

A SLR McLaren can drain the whole tank (26 gallons) in 22 minutes at top speed.

I wonder how long a 6.9 can last at top speed.
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In a 6.9 you measure fuel use like a Jet....in Lbs per hour.....not in MPG.



A Bugatti Veyron can use up its entire 20 something gallon tank in less than 12 minutes at max speed (253mph)....thats close to a gallon every 30 seconds!

A SLR McLaren can drain the whole tank (26 gallons) in 22 minutes at top speed.

I wonder how long a 6.9 can last at top speed.
Hope my fuzzy math is accurate.

So... (assuming 22 gallon tank as a guess) The Veyron gets about 2 mpg at max velocity. That's actually not bad, lol, considering....

The SLR gets almost 3 mpg at max velocity (I'm guessing 205 mph).

...The 2nd gen C111 with the OM617 would average 15 mpg at approximately the same sustained max speed of the SLR. More power required = more fuel to waste.
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Old 03-02-2009, 12:34 AM
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Interesting. The SLR gains 33% more mileage over the veyron, which is interesting in that its engine has a max output of 626hp.....while the veyron is 1001....so its about 30ish % less hp.....thus the 1 extra mpg. Thats weird!

Diesels rock. I've thought about how much electricity is required just to keep a dumb gasser going.....on a M103 its like 20 amps @ 12 volts....thats crazy. 9-10amps for the fuel pump(s).....ignition coil/computer/injection is another 7-10 amps......so inefficient.

A diesel only needs to keep its injection/lift pump moving...far less energy use/loss.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:31 AM
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Interesting. The SLR gains 33% more mileage over the veyron, which is interesting in that its engine has a max output of 626hp.....while the veyron is 1001....so its about 30ish % less hp.....thus the 1 extra mpg. Thats weird!

Diesels rock. I've thought about how much electricity is required just to keep a dumb gasser going.....on a M103 its like 20 amps @ 12 volts....thats crazy. 9-10amps for the fuel pump(s).....ignition coil/computer/injection is another 7-10 amps......so inefficient.

A diesel only needs to keep its injection/lift pump moving...far less energy use/loss.
I don't think electrical usage is a major factor in comparing diesel to gasser efficiency, though it might be a factor in comparing reliability!
Fortunately, not even an electric lift-pump in any of my diesels, and my Benz gassers have only ignition and, on my 250s, a couple tiny fuel cut-off solenoids on the carbs - hardly a major electrical drain.

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Old 03-02-2009, 08:47 AM
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WHAT? - actually that's pretty good. I am glad you didn't say I have an HHO, Bedini motor, wind mill powered lawn mower that actually produces more power than it uses.


BUT to answer the FIRST post. I actually cross over into the dark side when I (we) want to go fast - with a 328is.
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