Where were all the diesels - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

smokedetector · #1 04-02-2009, 03:35 PM

Tuesday I drove from Athens,Ga to Oberlin,OH and then back on Weds and Only saw one Mercedes Diesel. Is it too early to bring them out in the north? The only one I saw was a gray 240? in Cincinnati . She waved and seemed amazed to see me.

pawoSD · #2 04-02-2009, 04:01 PM

My dad isn't taking his summer car out until May....they claim we might get more snow in a few days....I don't believe we will though....they've been wrong all the other times...

tbomachines · #3 04-02-2009, 04:42 PM

I haven't taken my 300SD out in the snow yet (haven't had it on the road much)...BUT...let me tell you I will run for cover at the slight chance of snow/ice. I had one hell of a time getting the car out my yard with just dirt/mud, forget the snow. I actually had to have my father jump in his pathfinder and push it out in 4WD...the yard didn't fare so well. Just curious - anyone use chains on their MBs? Taken them in the snow?

UriahT · #4 04-02-2009, 04:51 PM

Where I am in NYC, there's 6 year-round W123s on my block.

But I think sightings for these cars is becoming more and more rare if you aren't near a major metropolitan area. When I go out to PA every weekend, it's real unusual that I see a single one for a 250mile round trip.

otto huber · #5 04-02-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by smokedetector

She waved and seemed amazed to see me.

At least the 123 owners are friendly out there. Out here in California, a wave or nod of recognition will get you a dirty look or cold shoulder.

sublakedesron · #6 04-02-2009, 05:50 PM

In Saratoga, NY i drive all year with my 300D but i dont think any one else does. But then again ive only seen 3 w123's including mine so seeing one is unlikly

Oracle12345 · #7 04-02-2009, 06:13 PM

RWD cars are terrible in the snow let alone ice hence why I dont drive any of the benz's in winter. If I had 4matic then I might be more inclined to entertain the idea.

Jeremy5848 · #8 04-02-2009, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Oracle12345

RWD cars are terrible in the snow let alone ice hence why I dont drive any of the benz's in winter. If I had 4matic then I might be more inclined to entertain the idea.

When I was growing up in northern Wisconsin (1950s-1960s) everyone had RWD cars and drove with few problems in the ice and snow. As I recall, my dad would usually put snow tires on for the winter but almost never chains. Are cars so much different nowadays or is it that we've become spoiled with FWD, AWD, and 4WD? Maybe people need to slow down?

I've driven from CA to UT and back every Christmas for over 30 years, occasionally having to "chain up" for the Sierra. The last 3 years have been in a Mercedes, once in the '85 (123) and twice in the '96 (210). We were lucky and didn't have to use our chains at all, so they are still new in the box.

Jeremy

WhoWhat · #9 04-02-2009, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy5848

When I was growing up in northern Wisconsin (1950s-1960s) everyone had RWD cars and drove with few problems in the ice and snow. As I recall, my dad would usually put snow tires on for the winter but almost never chains. Are cars so much different nowadays or is it that we've become spoiled with FWD, AWD, and 4WD? Maybe people need to slow down?

I've driven from CA to UT and back every Christmas for over 30 years, occasionally having to "chain up" for the Sierra. The last 3 years have been in a Mercedes, once in the '85 (123) and twice in the '96 (210). We were lucky and didn't have to use our chains at all, so they are still new in the box.

Jeremy

I drove my 300D all year, including the winter...it was fine. I bought a new set of Nokian WRs, and it handled awesome in the white stuff. No problems, didn't get stuck once.

bustedbenz · #10 04-02-2009, 08:56 PM

I'm going to have to get some chains for mine if I keep driving it. We had a 5-6 inch snow this winter and it was enough to leave the road up to my required parking lot slick enough that I could not even get up it. Got about halfway on the paved road and then it just quit pushing forward and started spinning. Made five attempts total over 2 more-and-more frustrating hours. Started going up like a normal person, driving cautiously, tried that twice, had to u-turn in front of a city bus that was waiting to climb the hill one time. That was exciting. Tried the "just make a run for it" approach at great risk of sideways-sliding into something, and didn't get much further than the other ways (This was complicated by the presence of speed bumps; this is the same road I cracked my oil pan on two years ago), tried to go up once in reverse just for the heck of it even though I KNEW that wasn't going to help the weight distribution at all - I was theorizing that maybe the lower gear range would sort of have a "low range" effect... it doesn't. Finally had to park it at the dorm that night, put it in the parking deck when it opened that morning (paying for a pass) and finally got it up the hill at about 3 pm the next day.

And it's not even that impressive a hill. I'm either going to buy snow chains or a Grand Cherokee. If I get a decent-paying job this summer and manage to save up enough, I'm buying a ZJ generation Grand Cherokee to take up here for the winter.

Oracle12345 · #11 04-02-2009, 09:08 PM

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I'm going to have to get some chains for mine if I keep driving it. We had a 5-6 inch snow this winter and it was enough to leave the road up to my required parking lot slick enough that I could not even get up it. Got about halfway on the paved road and then it just quit pushing forward and started spinning. Made five attempts total over 2 more-and-more frustrating hours. Started going up like a normal person, driving cautiously, tried that twice, had to u-turn in front of a city bus that was waiting to climb the hill one time. That was exciting. Tried the "just make a run for it" approach at great risk of sideways-sliding into something, and didn't get much further than the other ways (This was complicated by the presence of speed bumps; this is the same road I cracked my oil pan on two years ago), tried to go up once in reverse just for the heck of it even though I KNEW that wasn't going to help the weight distribution at all - I was theorizing that maybe the lower gear range would sort of have a "low range" effect... it doesn't. Finally had to park it at the dorm that night, put it in the parking deck when it opened that morning (paying for a pass) and finally got it up the hill at about 3 pm the next day.

And it's not even that impressive a hill. I'm either going to buy snow chains or a Grand Cherokee. If I get a decent-paying job this summer and manage to save up enough, I'm buying a ZJ generation Grand Cherokee to take up here for the winter.

Same here. New england winters are brutal and RWD and fwd cars just slide and are useless in winter

GregoryV022 · #12 04-02-2009, 09:12 PM

ive been up in the sierras during a blizzard in my 300TD, just put four wheel chains on and you have no handling problems. why are people so afraid of chains.

also, i found this product called tire socks that enhance you traction on ice. you should look into them

Graplr · #13 04-02-2009, 09:21 PM

I drive my SD all winter in Minnesota. I've never had an issue. I guess growing up in a rural area where blizzards were common taught me how to drive in the snow and ice. I don't even have snow tires, just a good set of all-weather tires.

Back to the OPs remarks, I drive in the Twin Cities area regularly, maybe about 4-600 miles/week. I usually see one or two other diesels per month. They are just few and far between.

engatwork · #14 04-02-2009, 09:21 PM

There are three w123's in the parking lot at my plant that are used for daily drivers. The production manager (guy next to the mill manager), the finishing and shipping superintendent and myself. I just converted the production managers car back to r12 with a new compressor/dryer and no I did not do it for free

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bustedbenz · #15 04-02-2009, 09:29 PM

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I drive my SD all winter in Minnesota. I've never had an issue. I guess growing up in a rural area where blizzards were common taught me how to drive in the snow and ice. I don't even have snow tires, just a good set of all-weather tires.

Even if being an excellent driver is 90% of the equation, which I am sure is the case, that last 10% is enough to keep my car from moving uphill. There's no substitute for traction. And I can't get it. Running all-year tires doesn't help but I also think the w126 itself must be partly to blame... huge car, very heavy and with a heavy diesel sitting on the front end... it just doesn't stand a chance without chains and stuff. Which I suppose I'll have to look into.