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Old 04-09-2009, 02:21 PM
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It sounds like the slave bleed nipple is plugged, which is a common problem as that is the lowest part of the system. Pull the nipple and clear it. I have a good one on hand and simply swap it in.

It isn't plugged - anymore... It was plugged but I noticed that in one of my first bleed attempts and I took it out and cleaned it out with a piece of wire. I open it only like 1/2 turn and already fluid starts leaking around the threads.

Also, thanks to everyone else for the info about the hoses and such... I could have sworn I saw a soft line connected to the slave when I was down there though - even remember using it as leverage with my crescent wrench to hold open the bleeder valve. I didn't look that closely though, maybe it was connected to something else...

Obviously I will check that all out before I put in the new slave.

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Old 04-09-2009, 02:41 PM
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Yes don't use the black fabric fuel line- mine rotted out and probably contributed to my system's demise. I just used common vinyl hose from HD- works fine so far but it's new.
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:56 AM
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Still wondering if anyone knows the answer to whether there is a chance this is a mechanical failure, and possibly what things inside the transmission could fail to produce the symptoms I described.
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Old 04-10-2009, 08:24 AM
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Did you look at my post about the throwout bearing. It could cause all of the problems mentioned.
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Old 04-10-2009, 09:51 AM
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If your clutch pedal is "stiff" chances are your hydraulics are OK. Time to pull the tranny off and see what's going on with the throwout bearing or even the slave cyl-to-throwout bearing linkage (whatever that's called).
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Old 04-10-2009, 01:16 PM
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its easy to miss that the rear comp in master cyl is empty due to slow leak. first thing to lose is clutch . sorry, i'm hloding sleeping granddaughter and typing with one finger
Check if you have Windows.... under accessories I think... and accessibility.. there may be a screen keyboard which you can use in those type situations...
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:10 PM
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If your clutch pedal is "stiff" chances are your hydraulics are OK. Time to pull the tranny off and see what's going on with the throwout bearing or even the slave cyl-to-throwout bearing linkage (whatever that's called).
You know, I realized I am being stupid about this... what I just remembered is that when this whole situation started, I found that my fluid reservoir was empty - duh... so either a leak or some part that blew (though I still haven't yet been able to find a leak - large or small)

Also, my pedal, although not totally limp (it does spring back), does not offer the same resistance I remember from before when the clutch was working.

So very unlikely that the clutch issues wouldn't be related to that missing fluid in some way! Time to work out the hydraulic issues before worrying about mechanical issues.



new question:

Is it possible that bleeding would not work correctly if either the slave or master cyl was blown? I am pretty puzzled by why I don't seem to be able to get the clutch system to bleed from the bottom up. I don't see bubbles coming up in the reservoir.
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your pedal is brought back up by a spring..
no relation to the other problem ..
so it looks like you have found your Limpness problem cause...
Hydraulic brakes should be ' worked out' before worrying about getting the car to go fast..
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Old 04-10-2009, 02:59 PM
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your pedal is brought back up by a spring..
no relation to the other problem ..
so it looks like you have found your Limpness problem cause...
Hydraulic brakes should be ' worked out' before worrying about getting the car to go fast..
LOL
Oh, I should have been more clear, it was the transmission section of the fluid reservoir (in the back compartment) that had no fluid. The brakes section was fine.

I also know the brakes work fine because I drove the car 45 miles home with no clutch
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Old 04-10-2009, 03:11 PM
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your pedal is brought back up by a spring..
no relation to the other problem ..
so it looks like you have found your Limpness problem cause...
Hydraulic brakes should be ' worked out' before worrying about getting the car to go fast..
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Greg, I dont think the clutch pedal comes back by spring
power. Have you never experienced "limp pedal"

edit 25.1-240/2 of the tranny manual shows a spring but it wont hold the pedal up if the systems full of air.
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You know, I realized I am being stupid about this... what I just remembered is that when this whole situation started, I found that my fluid reservoir was empty - duh... so either a leak or some part that blew (though I still haven't yet been able to find a leak - large or small)

Also, my pedal, although not totally limp (it does spring back), does not offer the same resistance I remember from before when the clutch was working.

So very unlikely that the clutch issues wouldn't be related to that missing fluid in some way! Time to work out the hydraulic issues before worrying about mechanical issues.



new question:

Is it possible that bleeding would not work correctly if either the slave or master cyl was blown? I am pretty puzzled by why I don't seem to be able to get the clutch system to bleed from the bottom up. I don't see bubbles coming up in the reservoir.
I never did see bubbles or seemed to notice fluid coming back into the reservor, but what ever I did today it works. ya gotta keep the reservor full if ya don`t want limp peddle syndrome

www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=249874

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Old 04-10-2009, 11:49 PM
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I never did see bubbles or seemed to notice fluid coming back into the reservor, but what ever I did today it works. ya gotta keep the reservor full if ya don`t want limp peddle syndrome

www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=249874

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Well, pass some of that bleeding voodoo this way, would you please?

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