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Old 04-14-2009, 07:15 PM
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There's your problem, cat pee or cr@p. Almost anything would be an improvement over those.
Really? California Diesel sucks, why? -_- More reasons to go out to Texas lol

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Old 04-14-2009, 08:13 PM
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Actually I like CA diesel. Last fall after I filled up my E300 near Sacramento the engine was still sounding great. Then later when I refilled with the local winter-ready cat pee, all the knocks and pings that I hadn't heard in a long time were suddenly back. I think my car just doesn't like winter diesel.
Not sure Sacramento gets cold weather diesel. I never notice a difference in winter or summer and I live further up the hill. I don't think it even gets cold enough to even begin thinking about gelling up in Sacramento
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Old 04-14-2009, 08:19 PM
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To my knowledge, here in the Central Valley, there is nothing but #2 diesel available. I have never seen B-100 out here anywhere, but have found it in Southern California...Robert
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Not sure Sacramento gets cold weather diesel. I never notice a difference in winter or summer and I live further up the hill. I don't think it even gets cold enough to even begin thinking about gelling up in Sacramento
Yeah, I think that's what happened. Sacramento's diesel fuel probably does not get winterized, so in late November when I filled up here in Reno (where it's definitely winterized) it was a big change. To my understanding winter diesel fuel has lower cetane than summer fuel.
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To my knowledge, here in the Central Valley, there is nothing but #2 diesel available. I have never seen B-100 out here anywhere, but have found it in Southern California...Robert
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Old 04-14-2009, 09:20 PM
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does anyone have any knowledge of Jet Fuel ? I know it has alot of sulfer in it. I have tried it without any obvious problems. I have done searches but cant find anything but speculation.
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Old 04-14-2009, 09:42 PM
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..Now, the modern fuels eavporate totally away, leaving nothing behind...
Hmm, that's not what the street in front of my house shows
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Old 04-14-2009, 09:51 PM
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Hmm, that's not what the street in front of my house shows
You likely have a different formulation. The diesel out here is perfectly clear, whereas it used to have a blue/green tinge to it and an oily feel. This feels just like cleaning solvent and it dries away leaving no oily residue...Robert
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think it was in the Cummins forum , there is a guy by the handle of MOPARMAN I think it is, he uses 2 cycle eng oil in his Diesel fuel. he said it has increased his milage and adds lubricity to the crapy fuel the refineries dish out.

There was a thread a while back where the different fuel additives were compared. the walmart 2 cyl oil was right up at the top of the test.

I remember as a kid, the Diesel exhaust had a more plesant smell, compared to what I notice today. as DOCKTOR BERT said, the fuel had a greanish blue look to it and it was like a light oil.
I am of the camp that this clear fluid we buy has no lubricity to it, and I would never admit to adding anything in my tank, but see no harm with 1/2 to 1 oz of 2 cyl oil per gal.

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ULSD is supposed to meet the same lubricity standard that LSD was supposed to meet. But it certainly doesn't hurt to add some more lubricity via an additive. I'm more concerned with cetane than lubricity though.

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does anyone have any knowledge of Jet Fuel ? I know it has alot of sulfer in it. I have tried it without any obvious problems. I have done searches but cant find anything but speculation.
Why would you want to use jet fuel in a diesel car? I can't see any advantage. To my knowledge jet fuel is close to kerosene or diesel #1 which has less BTU, cetane and lubricity than diesel #2.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:05 AM
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These fuels are "OK": #1 & #2 Diesel, 1K & 2K Kerosene, Jet-A, Jet A-1, JP-5, and JP-8.
NOT OK under any circumstances: Jet-B, JP-4, and Cite
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Old 04-15-2009, 08:58 AM
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To my understanding winter diesel fuel has lower cetane than summer fuel.
Winterized diesel should have a higher cetane, so that it helps start the engine more easily. Right? Maybe I am wrong.

Clear diesel? Hmm. The stuff in my pre-filter is definintely greenish yellow. Maybe that's the difference! BUT then again, I am using B11 so that could also be the cause.
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Old 04-15-2009, 10:05 AM
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I would not put Jet A in my car if I had to pay for it but a "friend" sumps fuel from the drain points of aircraft fuel tanks to check for water and crud. It cant be reused afterwards and there is rarely anything in it. It would be a shame to pay people to take it away as waste. the mercedes manual says diesel #2 can be mixed 50-50 with kerosene when its freezing cold outside. Jet A is close to kerosene except for all the extra sulfer. Free fuel is awfully hard to turn away. Sometimes there is only one way to find out.
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Old 04-15-2009, 11:18 AM
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I did find a station very near to me that is rumored to sell B20, but no B99 or B100...Robert
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Jet A

I run Jet A in my 84 300DT whenever it is "free". Seat of the pants it feels like it has more power. I was always told to add a little MMO or ATF to jet fuel.
I've just started running B99 and I like it, seems smoother than diesel and smells better, no smoke. 10% cheaper than diesel.

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