Just the old ones....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvt7Wrjwc-Q&eurl

I like them dirty.
That was a great idea. Must try for my next cup of morning coffee.

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Tomas, Sweden
1966 Mercedes Benz 230S with OM617.912, automatic. Disk brakes from W108
1983 Mercedes Benz 300TD grey, OM617.912 and 5-speed manual
1983 Mercedes Benz 300TD blue 7-seater, OM617.912 and 5-speed manual

I'll stick with my 300D's.

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79 MB 280 SEL Euro 133k
77 MB 450SL 154k
05 Mustang GT Vert (3) 104k
12 TSX Wagon Tech (66k) (192k)
06 Subaru Outback base (135k) 164k
16 Acura MDX (109k) 111k
18 Silverado 2500 LTZ Midnight (212) 56k
97 Ford Ranger 163k
11 RAV4 154k
01 Escape 173k
04 Honda Pilot 292k
1967 Mustang (Resto Project)
1968 Mustang (Parts Bin)
00 Ford Ranger 124k

It's an interesting test. What they don't show is the extra CO2 the DPF equipped car puts out.

I've seen some interesting retrofit DPFs. One used a "filter" that was a wire mesh, which could be electrically heated to burn off the soot. If I could get something like that cheaply I would install it on both of my cars.

It's also not fair to compare the new TDI to an old W115. They should have used a 2003 car for the "traditional" diesel. The 2004-06 TDIs actually soot a little bit more from the factory... My guess is they're trying to keep the EGTs up to keep the cat going.

-Jason

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1991 350SDL. 230,000 miles (new motor @ 150,000). Blown head gasket

Tesla Model 3. 205,000 miles. Been to 48 states!
Past: A fleet of VW TDIs.... including a V10,a Dieselgate Passat, and 2 ECOdiesels.
2014 Cadillac ELR
2013 Fiat 500E.

Which means nothing.

I hope you have an extra $3000 handy to feel good about the exhaust coming out of your dirty engine only looking clean.

$3k doesn't meet my cheap requirement

I bet that 115 just needs a good ol' valve adjustment.

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Dan
2005 E320 CDI - 246k
1987 300SDL TD05-16g, Herlevi pump, Elbe manifold, 2.47 LSD - 213k
Past: 1987 300D - 264k

Stand back ----- let the flames begin. Maybe they should have used biodiesel. Just kidding -- no response needed

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John Schroader
bio burnin' 83 300D, '83 300 SD, '79 240D
"I've never met a man who was good at making excuses who was good at anything else" Ben Franklin
"You cannot permanently help a man by doing for him what he could and should do for himself" Abraham Lincoln

Maybe new injectors too.

Anyway, it'd be nice to have a cleaner car. But if I had $2k +500/month, it'd never make it to the dealer.

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CC: NSA

All things are burning, know this and be released.

82 Benz 240 D, Kuan Yin
12 Ford Escape 4wd

You're four times

It's hard to

more likely to

concentrate on

have an accident

two things

when you're on

at the same time.

a cell phone.

www.kiva.org It's not like there's anything wrong with feeling good, is there?

No flame intended.

I will use biodiesel when M-B says it's OK to use B100 rather than just B5, and when every farmer who sells, or supplier of, products used in biodiesel uses biodiesel 100% for every internal combustion engine they use whether they own them or not, and when all those who tout biodiesel and alcohol based fuel do the same.

Jim W.

It is expected when comparing a current car with a 20+ years car. 20+ years is a long time in technology. If you fall for the sale gimmick then that is too bad.

One thing that has not changed is the internal combustion engine design, no one has come up with a better design yet except the wankel engine. But it runs on gas. I will keep my MBZ for now. Thanks but no thanks.

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Not MBZ nor A/C trained professional but a die-hard DIY and green engineer. Use the info at your own peril. Picked up 2 Infractions because of disagreements. NOW reversed.

W124 Keyless remote, PM for details. http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-used-parts-sale-wanted/334620-fs-w124-chasis-keyless-remote-%2450-shipped.html

1 X 2006 CDI
1 x 87 300SDL
1 x 87 300D
1 x 87 300TDT wagon
1 x 83 300D
1 x 84 190D ( 5 sp ) - All R134 converted + keyless entry.

Interesting...our '06 TDI gets a sooty bumper, while my old w123 does not....

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RRGrassi


70's Southern Pacific #5608 Fairmont A-4 MOW car

13 VW JSW 2.0 TDI 193K, Tuned with DPF and EGR Delete.

91 W124 300D Turbo replaced, Pressure W/G actuator installed. 210K

90 Dodge D250 5.9 Cummins/5 speed. 400K

My SDL lays down some nice smoke when I lay on it.. I do it on purpose when ever in front of a prius owner to offset their smug emissions..

You too?

Hate their smug pious/prius expressions. Smoke 'em all out!

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Alastair AKA H.C.II South Wales, U.K. based member

W123, 1985 300TD Wagon, 256K,
-Most recent M.B. purchase, Cost-a-plenty, Gulps BioDiesel extravagantly, and I love it like an old dog.

W114, 1975 280E Custard Yellow,
-Great above decks needs chassis welding--Really will do it this year....

It's even more fun when you do it to that shiny white Z3 or Z4 that's been tailgating you for three miles.

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~Michael S.~
Past cars:

1986 300SDL
1987 300SDL
1982 240D
1982 300SD


Current:

1987 300SDL